WEBVTT 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.320 good evening everyone I'd first of all 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:07.719 like to acknowledge the Gadigal people 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:09.039 the Eora nation the traditional 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:10.640 custodians of our land and pay my 00:00:10.720 --> 00:00:12.640 respects to the eldest both past and 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:14.880 present and also acknowledge the people 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:16.440 of the very many nations who live in our 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:18.559 city and I'd like to acknowledge the 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:20.359 Aboriginal and Torres Strait people who live 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:23.160 in our city and now go to the prayer 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:24.800 Almighty God we thank you for the gift 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:27.359 of this remarkable City help us deal 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:29.000 with its needs and aspirations of all 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:31.719 its people with with compassion and 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:34.039 fairness um and to plan its future with 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:37.920 wisdom and farsightedness thank 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:43.039 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:49.759 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:01.920 you 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:10.840 where did that come 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:17.040 from all right 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:20.120 okay 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:28.760 good I'm 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:31.840 right 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:41.439 so tonight we have in attendance myself 00:01:41.519 --> 00:01:43.319 Clover Moore the chair we have the 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:45.439 deputy Lord mayor councelor Robert Kok 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:49.359 and councellors Hy William Chan um ? 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:52.920 Elma Emelda Davis Sylvia Ellsmore Lyndon 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:56.200 Gannon Shauna Jarrett Linda Linda Scott 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:58.799 Yvonne Weldon and Adam Whirling we also have 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:01.480 Monica Barone and our executive of 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:04.760 the city are also in attendance so 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:08.000 tonight um we're live streaming uh this 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:10.159 council meeting it will be audio 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:12.319 visually recorded webcast live and 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:15.360 archived in the city's website so I'm 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:18.879 asked to ask you by legislation actually 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:20.719 uh to refrain from making any defamatory 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:21.919 statements and ensure there's no 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:23.719 personal criticism directed at any 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:24.800 speaker or 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:27.000 staff um when it comes to voting on the 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:28.639 items I'll advise the following all 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:31.400 those in favor say I those against um 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:34.039 and when votes are not unanimous I'll 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:38.199 ask Erin to uh to confirm the result um 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:41.159 so the first thing I'd like to do is the 00:02:41.240 --> 00:02:43.240 confirmation item one confirmation of 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:45.520 minutes so I'll move the uh confirmation 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:48.159 of minutes seconded by Deputy Lord may put 00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:50.400 that to you all those in favor say I 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:52.199 those against declare it said unanimously 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.280 thank you item two statement of ethical 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:56.479 obligation and disclosures of interest 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:59.240 so in accordance with 233a of the Local 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:01.680 Government Act 1993 Lord mayor and 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:03.360 councilors are bound by the oath of 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:05.919 affirmation of office um made at the 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:07.680 start of 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:11.000 council we undertake to uh Carrry out our 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:13.280 Civic duties in the best interest of the 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:16.439 people of Sydney um and uh the council 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:18.560 and to faithfully and partially Carrry 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:20.719 out all of our functions as elected 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:22.800 representatives and the also the powers 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:25.159 authorities and discretions vested in 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:27.520 us under the Local Government Act 1993 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:28.879 or any other act to the best of our 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:31.680 ability and judgement 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:35.800 you're not going to announce that I will 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:39.520 do that so are there any disclosures of 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:42.840 Interest councilor Hy 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:45.159 Chan thank you Lord Mayor I declare 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:47.879 that I have a pecuniary interest in item 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:52.280 11.4 post exhibition planning proposal 2 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:55.879 2828 ? Street and 6 to 2 param Road 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:58.159 forest lodge and that I am an employee 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:00.000 of the University of Sydney in the 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:01.800 Sydney School of architecture design and 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:04.560 planning and I will not be voting on 00:04:04.639 --> 00:04:07.280 this matter thank you Council Chan 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:08.879 councilor 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:11.800 Davis thank you Lord mayor I'd like to 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:15.639 declare a uh sorry I have a significant 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:18.600 non-pecuniary interest disclosure due to 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:21.240 our ongoing Association for item 10 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:24.519 sorry resilient communities yes um I 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:25.800 have a significant non-pecuniary 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:30.000 disclosure due to uh our ? 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:31.759 ? support Port Jackson ongoing 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:33.959 relationship with Australian with the 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:36.920 ? indigenous Ministries and ? 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:39.199 Capital um in light of this I will not 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:41.360 be voting on this item thank you Council 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:43.160 Davis do I any have any other 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:45.639 disclosures Council Ellmore thank you 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:47.800 Lord mayor I made a non-significant 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:49.720 non-pecuniary disclosure in relation to 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:53.000 items 9.3 and 10.4 they are two grants 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:54.639 items and that I met with a number of 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:56.319 the groups who applied for grants but 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:57.759 were not involved or gave advice in 00:04:57.839 --> 00:04:59.240 relation to the grants so and was not 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:00.319 aware where they were putting them in 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:02.120 until we got the papers so I'll stay in 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:04.040 the room and vote on those items thank 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:06.519 you thank 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:10.000 you uh item three minutes by the Lord 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:13.600 mayor item 3.1 Vale Helena 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:17.040 Carr so Council um this vale is for 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:19.240 Helena Carr and I'd like to 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:21.240 acknowledge um the former Premier Bob 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:24.040 Carr who is watching um this 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:27.319 online and welcome him Helena was an 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:29.199 accomplished businesswoman and wife of 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:31.480 the former New South Wales Premier and 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:33.360 Australian Foreign Minister Bob Carr and 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:36.160 died on the 25th of October Helena died 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:38.639 suddenly after losing consciousness as a 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:40.759 result of a brain aneurism while in 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:42.920 Vienna with her husband of 50 years who 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:45.959 was at her side Helena was born in Parak 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:47.800 Malaysia she was the youngest of six 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.480 children from a multicultural family her 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:52.720 father Lois was Indian and her mother 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:56.560 Regina was Chinese in 1965 at the age of 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:59.519 17 a fiercly independent Helena convinced her 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:01.319 parents to allow her to come to Sydney 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:03.240 to study at Our Lady of Mercy College 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:05.439 Parramatta she then went on to major in 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:07.040 economics at the University of Sydney 00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:08.800 where she was a resident at Santa Sophia 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:10.639 College this is where as a fellow 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:12.560 student and resident I first met Helena 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:14.879 and knew her as an intelligent and warm 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:17.759 young woman in 1971 while on a holiday 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:19.839 in Tahiti Helena met her future husband 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:22.839 Bob Carr they married in 1973 and often 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:25.040 described their 50-year journey 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:28.160 together as a partnership in both public 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:30.040 and private life which reflects the 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:31.480 strength of their love and commitment to 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:34.040 one another Helena was an accomplished 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:36.079 and successful businesswoman she joined 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:38.839 Lee Mardin in 1976 and later as a business 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:40.680 development manager and then a division 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:42.240 manager where she was responsible for 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:44.439 staff of a thousand she recalled that some of 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:46.399 her staff were quite frightened of her 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:48.079 adding that the only people who really 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:49.560 needed to be afraid were those who 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:52.639 didn't perform by the mid 1980s she was 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:55.720 the managing director of Lee Mardin Helena 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:57.240 then ventured into the printing business 00:06:57.319 --> 00:06:59.519 with business partner Max Turner when 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:01.519 they purchased commercial commercial 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:03.279 printing company Meritt Madden Printing 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:06.160 and Advanced Graphics when her husband 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:07.759 Bob was leader of the opposition I got 00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:10.000 to know Helena again meeting both at 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:11.560 official functions and regularly running 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:13.800 into each other a at Bill and Tony's on 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:15.759 Stanley Street where Helena and Bob my 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:18.160 Peter my husband Peter and I regularly 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:20.639 had morning coffee before we started our 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:22.800 day at this time I came to appreciate 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:24.439 how very intelligent and interesting she 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:26.560 was a bright and warm personality who 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:28.839 was always there to support her partner 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:30.959 Bob Helena famously avoided the 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:33.160 spotlight Edmund Capen the former 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:34.639 director of the art gallery of New South 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:36.639 Wales and friend described her as a 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:38.600 tower of strength but also a tower of 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:40.639 discretion others described her as the 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:42.720 business brains of the Carr family 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:44.920 operation the public commitment to stand 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:46.879 by Bob was made easier by her commitment 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:49.040 to her own career the most important 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:50.680 decision she ever made was to avoid that 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:51.879 dangerous intersection where her 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:53.560 business life might have met her his 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:55.519 politics she told the Sydney Morning 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:57.959 Herald in 1988 a partner's interest must 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:00.040 coincide with yours but his occupation 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.160 need not do so independent 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:03.920 self-confident and financially secure 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:06.279 she was not reliant on Bob or jealous of 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:08.519 his limelight but instead a steadfast 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:10.839 partner and supporter together with many 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:12.600 others I will remember Helena for her 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:14.519 charisma and charm her ability to 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:16.000 connect with people from all walks of 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:18.560 life and as someone who genuinely cared 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:20.000 and who was always ready to listen and 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:22.759 offer support I recommend we observe a 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:24.439 minute silence to commemorate the life 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:27.120 of Helena Carr and her enduring legacy as 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:29.279 an independent intelligent and warm 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:31.319 person successful businesswoman and 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:33.039 steadfast partner and supporter of the 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:35.240 former New South Wales Premier Bob Carr 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:36.399 and that Council expressed its 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:38.960 condolences to Bob Carr and that I convey 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:42.039 these condolences to the Carrs to 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:43.519 Bob Carr and the 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:45.799 family Council 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:47.960 Scott thanks Lord mayor and I thank you 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.080 for moving this uh Mayoral minute and in 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.120 doing so also acknowledge former Labour 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:54.320 Premier Bob Carrr and rise to pay my 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:57.159 respects at this terrible loss it was uh 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:59.960 such a terrible shock to uh wake up to 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:03.000 this very very sad and sudden news and I 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.720 can only imagine uh having just been 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:08.759 texting with former Premier Bob Carr only 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:10.840 really a day or so earlier what an 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:13.720 incredible shock it must have been uh 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:15.759 she was as you have rightly acknowledged 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.320 Lord Mayor an incredible tower of strength 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:21.320 for him uh but remarkably uh did not 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:25.519 seek out her own public um uh persona 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:27.639 did not uh seek out the limelight in any 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:30.240 way but just carrried on with him in such 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:34.000 an incredible humble supportive role uh 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:36.720 for so many years one can only imagine 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:38.519 uh the late night conversations they had 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:40.759 when he returned home from Parliament 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:43.000 but one can only imagine the incredible 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.919 wisdom uh and sincere advice that she 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:49.039 provided to him and there is no doubt uh 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:50.919 with all respect to former Premier Bob 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:54.120 Carr the incredible strength uh and 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:57.440 wisdom that he benefited from was a key 00:09:57.519 --> 00:09:59.799 part of the success that he had uh 00:09:59.879 --> 00:10:02.320 in being such a long serving and very 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:04.519 successful uh Labour Premier in this 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:06.879 state uh we all recognize and 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:08.679 acknowledge the shock and the hurt that 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:11.200 must have come with this very sudden 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:15.000 passing uh but also uh her incredible 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:17.000 wisdom and strength that he drew on for 00:10:17.080 --> 00:10:19.279 so many years and we take this 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:22.279 opportunity to give our love to him uh 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:25.720 and all those who loved her uh and also 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:28.440 pass on our thanks uh that she did so 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:31.360 much for this state in the form of being 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.799 his partner uh and loved one when he 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:36.480 served his time as Premier thank you 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:38.919 thank you very much councilor Scott Deputy 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:39.919 Lord 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:42.279 Mayor Lord Mayor I too i' like to um 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:44.679 offer my condolences to um to Bob Carrr 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:47.000 um for his his loss it's very 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:49.759 very sad in indeed um I remember um 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:52.200 first meeting Helena back when Bob Carr 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:53.919 was Premier and there was this was 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:56.960 back in um in the late '90s when she 00:10:57.039 --> 00:10:59.039 accompanied him to to many of this 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:01.360 Chinese Community engagements always 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:04.799 found her to be um very very supportive 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:08.440 um and also a very pleasant lady 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:10.840 we had we had something in common 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:13.720 that we're both from from Malaysia yes 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:16.960 so um so I express um condolences to to 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:19.799 Bob Carr and his family for this loss thank 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:21.440 you thank you de thank you councilor 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:24.360 Scott so I'll put the motion to you all 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:27.559 those in favor say I those against 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:29.200 declare it carrried unanimously now will 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:30.919 stand for a minute silence and respect 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:34.039 Helena Helena 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:00.960 Carr 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:37.679 thank 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:57.840 you item 3.2 practical and compassionate 00:12:57.919 --> 00:13:01.080 action on drug St needed so Council I'd 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:03.440 like to acknowledge the deputy coroner 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:05.120 Harriet Graham who I understand is 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.159 watching on the live stream my minute 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:09.000 draws extensively on the report of Miss 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:11.879 Graham prepared into drug related deaths 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:14.399 by six young people at music festivals I 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:16.639 would also um acknowledge the appearance 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:18.320 of those young people who may be 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:20.639 watching over the next few months over 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:22.399 100,000 people are expected to attend 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:25.080 music festivals being held in Greater 00:13:25.159 --> 00:13:27.720 Sydney and Regional New South Wales many 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:29.879 of them will be young attracted by the 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:32.159 music the atmosphere and the opportunity 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:34.399 to socialize with others sharing similar 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:36.759 tastes some will seek to augment their 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:39.080 experience by using drugs this is 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:40.559 despite politicians and others 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:42.840 delivering simplistic and ineffective 00:13:42.919 --> 00:13:45.440 ineffective messages of don't take drugs 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:47.519 the intimidating use of sniffer dogs and 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:49.360 the threat of invasive and frequently 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:51.039 illegal strip 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:53.200 Searchers with this comes the risk of 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:54.759 young people experiencing serious 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:57.480 medical episodes which in some cases may 00:13:57.559 --> 00:13:59.840 result in death yet despite this 00:13:59.919 --> 00:14:01.360 successive governments have failed to 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:03.840 act my minute draws on the detailed 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:05.360 report released by the deputy State 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:07.159 coroner Harriet graah on the 6th of 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:09.919 November 2019 the report was the result 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:11.559 of her thorough and comprehensive 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:17.159 inquiry into MDI MD MDMA drug related 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:19.799 deaths uh and that that they're more 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:22.320 commonly known as ecstasy um of six 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:24.080 young people who had attended music 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:27.080 festivals between December 2017 and 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:30.559 January 2019 all six were described as 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:32.919 being gifted vibrant well-connected and 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:36.080 very much loved and they're dead her 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:38.039 inquest took extensive evidence over 3 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:39.759 weeks and it was supported by extensive 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:42.440 documentary and background research um 00:14:42.519 --> 00:14:45.240 material filling 32 volumes medical 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:47.960 experts the police Festival organizers 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:49.919 Festival Festival attendees and families 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:51.919 and friends of young people who had died 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:53.840 were among those who gave evidence and 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:56.320 witness statements Miss gra con 00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:57.960 concluded that much could be done to 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:01.080 prevent MDMA deaths her report contained 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:03.559 28 recommendations and they included 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:05.440 introducing medically supervised pill 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:07.360 testing drug checking at New South Wales 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:09.320 musical festivals funding the 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:10.960 establishment of a permanent drug 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:14.279 checking facility holding a drug Summit 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:16.080 um and policing should be directed 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:17.879 towards providing support and comfort 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:20.480 where needed acting to reduce or 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:23.120 minimize harm and concentrate on 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:25.240 organized drug dealing social disorder 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:27.759 and other crimes this included ending 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:29.440 the use of sniff for dogs and limiting 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:32.000 strip Searchers to strictly defined 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:34.000 circumstances her recommendations could 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:35.840 be summarized as reframing our main 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:38.200 priority from reducing drug use to 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:39.720 reducing drug 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:42.360 death the idea of a drug Summit was is 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:44.840 not new Miss M gra had made a similar 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:47.200 recommendation in her report on opiate 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:48.720 related deaths which she released in 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:51.759 March 2019 other leading experts had 00:15:51.840 --> 00:15:53.480 been calling for drug Summit for some 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:56.080 time on the 11th of February 2019 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:57.720 Council unanimously supported these 00:15:57.799 --> 00:15:59.480 calls and agreed to facilitate a 00:15:59.559 --> 00:16:01.720 practical demonstration of drug testing 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:03.639 by medical professionals that 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:05.399 demonstration took place in Sydney town 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:08.039 hall on the 12th of June 2019 attended 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:09.960 by Health Community and government 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:12.039 Representatives the demonstration was 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:14.159 conducted by pill testing Australia who 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.480 conducted two drug testing trials at 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:18.960 festivals in Cambra as well as checking 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:21.200 drugs volunteer peer Educators explained 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:23.639 the context of the drugs and discussed 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:26.159 options some people disCarrded some young 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:27.840 people disCarrded their drugs in the 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:30.279 amnesty provided others said they would 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.240 reconsider taking their drugs or or 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:34.440 would consider whether they take their 00:16:34.519 --> 00:16:37.639 drugs or take less despite the success 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:39.159 of the pill testing trials and the 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:40.960 weight of evidence supporting Miss graes 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:42.960 recommendations success of governments 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:45.200 have failed to take action immediately 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:46.799 after Miss graes report was released the 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:48.320 new the then New South Wales Premier 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:50.360 Gladis barlean denied that there was 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:52.159 evidence to support drug check a drug 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:54.159 checking trial and delayed the release 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:56.840 of a detailed inquiry into the drug ice 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:58.399 when the government finally responded it 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:00.200 rejected five recommendations outright 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:01.960 including pill testing and the provision 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:04.480 of secondary of second Med uh second 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:07.119 medically supervised injecting Center in 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:08.920 the meantime the ACT labor greens 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:10.319 government has established a permanent 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:12.359 drug checking facility and effectively 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:14.799 decriminalized personal drug use instead 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:17.039 treating it as a health issue in 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:18.519 February the Queensland labor government 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:19.720 announced it will introduce drug 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:22.240 checking at mobile and fixed sites in 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:23.880 contrast New South Wales new labor 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:25.680 government has delayed reform action 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:27.920 until after its proposed drug Summit set 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:30.920 for own date next year City morning H 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:32.640 reported in September that no provision 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:34.839 had been made in the New South Wales um 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:37.480 state budget for this last month the 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:39.359 Coalition of peak medical bodies 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:41.319 released an open letter to the premier 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:42.839 calling on his government to immediately 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:44.039 start drug checking with an 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:46.519 implementation pilot this summer F 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:48.880 Festival season they pointed out that 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:51.039 summer is forecast to be hot and warn 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:52.880 that high temperatures combined with 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:55.599 unexpectedly high doses of MDMA could be 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:58.559 fatal they suggested an evaluated pilot 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:00.359 program would provide Vital Information 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:02.400 for further discussion when it's held at 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:04.839 the New South Wales drug Summit I 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:07.279 support their call I also support calls 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:08.599 for the premier to set a date and 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:10.839 timeline for the proposed drug Summit 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:12.480 this could provide a valuable forum for 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:14.519 evidence to be presented considered and 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:16.400 discussed and enable informed decisions 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:18.799 to be made and worthwhile outcomes to be 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:20.839 achieved this was my experience of the 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:22.880 first drug Summit held over the 5 days 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:25.279 at Parliament House in 1999 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:26.920 significantly the Carr labor government 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:28.359 held it within months of that Year's 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:30.319 state election while the medically 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:31.960 supervised injecting room in King's 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:34.359 cross was its most high-profile outcome 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:37.119 it achieved much more it made 172 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:39.200 recommendations relating to young people 00:18:39.279 --> 00:18:41.559 in drugs Treatment Services drug 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:44.039 education law enforcement breaking the 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:46.640 drugs and crime cycle and Community 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:49.559 Action we now have new issues to address 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:51.680 not least the risks of ass associated 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:54.799 with casual drug use by by young people 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:56.680 who are not addicted or drug dependent 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:58.359 and who otherw would otherwise live a 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:01.119 productive happy and crime-free life 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:02.799 this is in addition to the medical and 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:04.480 social problems associated with drug 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:06.559 addiction and the use of drugs such as 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:09.079 ice a new drug Summit could examine 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:10.440 proposals that could contribute to 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:13.000 minimizing the harm from elicit drug use 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:14.400 it could consider whether existing 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:16.279 approaches are working effectively or 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:17.640 whether they are perversely increasing 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:20.119 the risk of harm and death this includes 00:19:20.200 --> 00:19:22.599 measures to ensure safety and reduce 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:24.880 harm that is why I'm asking you to 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:27.240 support my minute noting the 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:28.920 recommendations of the inquest into the 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:30.640 death of six patrons over the New South 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:33.640 Wales music festivals conducted by 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:36.559 deputy coroner Harriet graah in 2019 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:37.960 endorsing the open letter to the New 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:39.640 South Wales Premier calling on his 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:41.119 government to immediately start drug 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:43.039 checking with an implementation pilot 00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:45.200 this summer festive season Festival 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:47.279 season and requesting that the New South 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:49.480 Wales Premier set a date and timeline 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:50.960 for his proposed drug Summit and 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.720 priorize actions that reduce the risk of 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:56.240 drug related harm and deaths including 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:58.519 drug checking pill testing and the form 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:01.200 of the policing of drug 00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:03.319 use Council 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:05.799 Scott thanks Lord mayor I support this 00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:07.680 Mar minute and thank you for moving it 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:09.599 I'd first like to begin by extending my 00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:11.119 sympathies to the families and loved 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:12.720 ones of those who have lost their lives 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:15.359 it's an absolute tragedy to see these 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:18.519 young people uh killed by such an awful 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:21.279 means in the prime of their lives it's 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:23.279 so important that we continue to provide 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:25.599 support for everyone of every age who 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:27.400 wants to go and have a fun Festival 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:29.880 experience but we also want particularly 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:31.319 young people to understand the drug 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:33.160 related harms and that things can go 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:36.359 very wrong uh as you've noted Lord mayor 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:37.799 the premier has made a commitment to 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:40.359 hold a drug Summit in the first term of 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:42.200 this labor government to build consensus 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:44.319 on the way forward for New South Wells 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:45.960 dealing with harms out of this 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:48.079 incredible substance abuse you are right 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:50.799 to identify that the last uh drug Summit 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:52.839 held by the K labor government created 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:55.119 substantial reform that has led to 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:57.640 Lasting change in the way that we deal 00:20:57.720 --> 00:20:59.720 with har reduction in this state and has 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:01.880 led to some very important institutions 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:03.839 being established right here in the city 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:06.000 of Sydney that have not only lasted the 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:07.839 test of time but in the case in 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:10.799 particular of the injecting Center not 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:15.039 seen a single death occur that is a 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.039 remarkable leg to leave not a single 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:20.680 death not a single overdose absolutely 00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:23.839 remarkable outcome uh the government has 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:26.559 launched a harm minimization information 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:28.599 campaign from the 14th and 15th of 00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:31.119 October they've held regular prominent 00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:33.079 and consistent messaging from New South 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:36.160 Wales um drug and alcohol stay okay 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:38.839 campaign uh at all music festivals in 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:41.000 New South Wales messages like know the 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:43.039 signs and symptoms of harm and seek help 00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:46.000 early stay cool and well hydrated sip 00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:48.559 don't Gulp and these are broadcast on 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:50.920 electronic stream in between sets to 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:52.799 encourage Patron awareness of their 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:55.079 well-being and health uh nevertheless 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:57.160 Lord mayor I support your calls and the 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:00.240 calls of uh health professionals and by 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:02.079 the nurses Union and the health services 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:04.319 Union and many many other Professionals 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:06.799 in this space to hold a drug Summit to 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:09.240 hold it in a very timely fashion uh and 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:11.000 for the New South Wales government to 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:13.519 ensure that it is a comprehensive 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:16.240 assessment of the possibility of further 00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:19.519 reform to ensure that people can stay 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:21.480 safe this is the most important thing 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:23.039 the prevention of death the prevention 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:25.079 of harm is where we should all be 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:27.079 focused on thank you thank you Council 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:28.599 Scott Council 00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:31.160 elore thank you Lord may just briefly um 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:33.319 I strongly support this Lord Marl minute 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:35.920 thank you for look for those of us 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:37.880 who've as a greens counselor as well um 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:40.400 been campaigning for a long time around 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:42.279 Drug law reform there can be a lot of 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:44.279 fearmongering which gets in the way and 00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:45.920 ultimately hurts people who are 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:48.319 recreational drug users and so it's 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:49.680 incredibly important that this Council 00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:51.440 shows leadership in continuing to talk 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:53.119 about this as a health issue and backs 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:55.559 in the community in their campaigns I 00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:58.799 think um with this one I strongly 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:00.279 support the drug Summit and it needs to 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:02.480 happen quickly but also support this 00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:04.240 call that we don't need to wait for the 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:06.319 drug simmit to move for a pilot on pill 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:07.880 testing because the science is already 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:10.920 in the ACT trial which the um greens and 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:13.079 labor government have put in place I 00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:15.559 think it's been going it's found seven 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:17.640 um deaths that it believes it's avoided 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:19.039 as a result of people coming in and 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:21.519 testing their drugs most of the drugs 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:23.039 that are tested have pretty much what 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:23.960 people thought they were going to have 00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:26.880 in them but one in 10 um are ultimately 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:28.480 disCarrded by people because there's 00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:30.480 other things and enough of those things 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:31.880 are dangerous that as I said they 00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:33.720 estimate they've saved at least seven 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:35.839 people's lives so far and that's from a 00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:38.279 small small jurisdiction doing a small 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:40.759 pilot um in addition to all the evidence 00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:42.559 we have around what is happening in 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:45.160 Europe I wanted to do um just do a call 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:47.440 out that if the new southwes labor 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:50.000 government wanted to immediately um this 00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:52.599 week the greens Upper House MP Kate fman 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:54.519 has a bill to start a pill testing trial 00:23:54.599 --> 00:23:56.000 that will have its second reading speech 00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:57.440 so where there is a chance for them to 00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:59.480 move immediately before the summer 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:02.000 season and do this pilot even if the 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:03.240 pilot doesn't happen there are 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:05.160 opportunities and um for the New South 00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:06.680 Wales government to change the way that 00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:09.240 it polices even under the existing laws 00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:10.559 because the way that it polices these 00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:12.960 music festivals is dangerous by having 00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:14.359 police there who are ready to strip 00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:16.000 search or with sniffer dogs we know that 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:18.039 people walk up they'll often take all of 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:19.720 their drugs at once to avoid having them 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:21.839 on them um or they have a horrible 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:23.359 experience with police which means they 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:25.880 then don't want to report this balances 00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:28.200 out and I would say overwhelmed any of 00:24:28.279 --> 00:24:30.160 the good harm minimization education 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:32.240 campaigns you have if that's the reality 00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:34.079 of the experience that everyone coming 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:36.400 through the door of a music festival has 00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:38.480 so this is a really important um Lord 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:39.960 Merl minute thank you for keeping this 00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:43.160 on the agenda alongside our um Advocates 00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:45.440 at the state and uh other jurisdictions 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:46.839 it's it's really important and I hope we 00:24:46.920 --> 00:24:48.960 get some change thank you thank you 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:51.400 Council Scott Council El I'll put the 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:53.079 recommendation to did you put your hand 00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:55.759 up councel gner no I'll put the 00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:57.200 recommendation to you all those in favor 00:24:57.279 --> 00:24:59.599 say I 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:01.279 those against declare it code anany 00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:05.319 thank you item uh 3.3 support for watero 00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:07.240 South 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:08.920 relocations Council since the 00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.000 development of the watero estate um was 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:12.240 announced by the New South Wales 00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:14.359 government in 2015 that's seven years 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:16.519 ago residents of watero have endured 00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:18.480 years of uncertainty many of the 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:21.319 community are fatigued by consultation 00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:23.519 confused by various iterations of Master 00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:26.039 plans and planning decisions Community 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:27.680 needs certainty about the project in 00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:29.160 order to feel secure about their future 00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:31.480 and their home the city's work with the 00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:33.160 local community to achieve more social 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:34.759 affordable housing on the watero estate 00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:37.000 as part of the Redevelopment I welcome 00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:38.240 the New South Wales Premier and the 00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:39.640 minister of housing's commitment to 00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:41.720 deliver 50% of the housing at watero 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:44.039 South as social and affordable housing 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:46.240 with a minimum 15% of this housing 00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:48.559 dedicated to aage and ta rate island of 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:51.119 peoples this comes after years of our 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:54.559 steadfast advocacy the land and housing 00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:56.559 Corporation known as lack recently told 00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:58.559 Baloo South residents that they'll begin 00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:00.640 to receive formal relocation letters in 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:01.400 mid 00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:03.519 2024 they've committed to providing 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:05.240 residents with six months written notice 00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:07.799 of their relocation up to two office of 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:09.000 Housing and that they will have the 00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:10.119 right to 00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:13.000 return in the lead up and two and during 00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:15.039 the the and after the relocations 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:16.640 residents will need access to various 00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:18.119 forms of 00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:20.880 support dcj New South Wales Health 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:22.920 groundwell Redfern watero have developed 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.279 the watero Human Services action plan 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:27.759 and La has separately developed a an 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:30.279 overreach an overarching people and 00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:32.240 place guiding framework that includes 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:34.680 developing a human services plan that 00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:36.359 could have be all very confusing to many 00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:37.880 of the people I know in waterl I've got 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:40.359 to say I welcome a plan to support the 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:41.920 residents during the Redevelopment 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:44.480 process however the new southwes 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:46.200 government must holistically assess the 00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:48.119 needs of the whole waterl Community now 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:50.119 and in the future and provide ongoing 00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:51.680 services that support vulnerable 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:54.160 residents and promote a harmonious 00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:56.279 Community the city has a history of 00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:58.359 funding local organizations to support 00:26:58.440 --> 00:26:59.920 tenants in New South Wales government 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.440 Redevelopment projects we funded red 00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:04.200 fern Legal Center to provide teny 00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:06.160 support and legal advice to Millis Point 00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.240 residents we funded Counterpoint 00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:10.119 Community Services to support Waterloo 00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:11.599 residents through the Redevelopment 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:13.839 process we again supported red fern 00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:16.119 Legal Center to provide tency support 00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:17.720 and legal services for residents 00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:19.880 impacted by current and future New South 00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:22.440 Wales government Redevelopment projects 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:24.599 we support the work we've supported the 00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:26.440 work of the Red Fern waterl AAL 00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:28.759 affordable housing iance to build the 00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:30.759 capacity of AAL Community controlled 00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.119 organizations and the community to 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:34.839 advocate for increased provision of 00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:36.440 social affordable 00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:38.640 housing community development and 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:40.960 capacity building will ensure residents 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:43.759 are prepared for the relocation process 00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:45.680 know they'll know what to expect and 00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:47.640 they'll have access to resources to 00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:50.480 support um the sorts of representations 00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:53.000 they want to make individual legal case 00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:55.000 management may be required to help them 00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:56.680 understand their options their rights 00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:58.880 and how to respond respond culturally 00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:00.680 appropriate Community Support is also a 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:02.480 priority which should be managed by an 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:04.480 aigal Community controlled 00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:06.400 organization the city of Sydney is 00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:08.079 committed to supporting the water estate 00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:10.400 community and local organizations 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:12.759 through the relocation process and I'm 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:15.079 recommending that the CEO consult with 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:16.640 the local community organizations 00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:18.480 including Abel and taus Ro Islander 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:20.720 organizations in the waterl area about 00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:22.279 what support residents were required 00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.640 during relocation invi advise them um 00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:27.839 about the city's available grant program 00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.440 s and that I write to the minister for 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:32.039 housing calling on the New South Wales 00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:35.359 government to develop a water specific 00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:37.640 relocation policy and ensure that all 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:39.880 residents who wish to return to watero 00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:42.839 have a genuine right to do so um 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:45.400 resource ongoing Support Services work 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:47.160 with the waterl community to finalize 00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.680 and implement the Human Services plan 00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:51.519 confirm when Homes New South Wales will 00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:53.079 be created and how it will address the 00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.720 social impact of relocations and ensure 00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:58.480 culturally appropriate housing for ab to 00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:01.519 State Islander households and um I I 00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:03.799 moved the alternative motion that I Circ 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:06.640 circulated earlier today which had one 00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:10.759 change which I will 00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:13.279 um go 00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:15.880 to which is to say develop a watero 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.559 specific relocation policy and mandate 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:19.920 that tenants who wish to return to 00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:21.400 watero can be assured that they will be 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:25.440 able to do so Council Scott thanks Lord 00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:27.279 mayor I support this amended 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:29.400 recomendation uh and in doing so i' just 00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:32.519 ask if you'd consider in C1 where you've 00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:34.799 um it says develop a waterl specific 00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:37.119 relocations policy and you've said and 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:40.039 ensure that all residents just note um 00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:41.599 incorporating the government's 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:43.920 commitment that all residents who wish 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.720 to return to watero South because as 00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:48.759 you've noted in your speech that is an 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:50.799 existing commitment Lord mayor so what 00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:52.000 what it's saying at the moment is 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:53.759 develop a watero specific relocation 00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.240 policy and mandate that tenants who wish 00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:57.920 to return to water can be assured that 00:29:58.000 --> 00:29:59.880 they will be able to do so yes in 00:29:59.960 --> 00:30:01.079 accordance in accordance with The 00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:03.720 Minister's um undertaking sure that's 00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:06.839 fine okay thank you 00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:09.960 um Lord mayor you're right to outline 00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:11.799 that in the past when public housing has 00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:13.440 been sold off under the liberal national 00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:15.359 government the city has provided 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:17.720 significant support to the tenants in 00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:20.000 part because there was never a hope of 00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:22.160 return in the case of Miller's point uh 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:24.960 all of that home all of those uh homes 00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:27.839 have been turned over to permanently um 00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:30.440 private dwellings uh and in the case of 00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:32.720 uh many many many of the other 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.799 Redevelopment projects uh there was far 00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:38.720 less or no public housing delivered as a 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:40.880 result of the Redevelopment indeed the 00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.000 minister Rose Jackson recently commented 00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:44.640 at a public forum that when she was 00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:46.880 first briefed by the public servants in 00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:49.319 her Department their first sentence to 00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.039 her was to describe the bureaucracy as a 00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:55.960 snake eating itself because it was the 00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:58.359 case Lord mayor that in order to get any 00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:00.359 funding for the Department to do 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:02.559 anything they had to sell off properties 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:04.839 first for that to occur and so of course 00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:07.759 over time millions and millions of 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.319 dollars were sold off in the form of 00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:13.920 public housing assets and far fewer were 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.400 ever put back if any and of course 00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:18.640 properties were left to rot and not be 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:21.319 maintained it's why of course Rose 00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:23.400 Jackson is creating Homes New South 00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:25.039 Wales because the notion that you can 00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:28.559 separate a person from their home and 00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:30.160 say that they should 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.720 be supported by a government that 00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:34.920 considers those things separate is 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.519 utterly absurd it's why Rose Jackson has 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:39.039 announced that of course they are 00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:40.519 bringing the call center and the 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.519 management of the maintenance back in 00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:45.240 house to ensure that when tenants call 00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:47.000 the call center they're not speaking to 00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.319 an outsourced provider who just 00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:51.599 absolutely segments their concerns and 00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.640 delays and delays but they are speaking 00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:55.839 to a public servant a member of the new 00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:58.359 southw government who has the ability to 00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:01.000 case manage and support their concerns 00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:03.440 and of course it is why she has made a 00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:05.160 commitment to ensure that people who 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:08.039 wish to return to the waterl housing 00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:10.039 have a right to do so and she can do 00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:12.200 that Lord mayor because the government 00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:15.039 is building more public housing than is 00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:17.359 there now she is delivering more public 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:19.799 housing in a public housing crisis in an 00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.920 affordable housing crisis than is there 00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.279 to begin with Lord mayor it is an 00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:28.400 uncertain time let's not make any bones 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:30.640 about the fact that if people are being 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.880 asked to move often from communities 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.319 they have lived in for many decades that 00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:36.880 is a difficult thing and that is 00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:38.839 important to call out they will need 00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:41.240 support I'm pleased to see that the city 00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:42.519 is offering support for these 00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:44.240 communities I think that's a very very 00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:46.559 welcome thing it will be difficult it 00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:49.240 will be uncertain the timing is always 00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:51.559 difficult to establish Lord mayor but 00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:53.440 I'm really pleased to see that the labor 00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:54.880 government and Rose Jackson in 00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:56.559 particular has done everything she can 00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:58.720 to provide provide Assurance to people 00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:00.960 with as much information as possible 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:02.920 about what will happen to their homes 00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:04.920 and that they will be able to move back 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.720 into the area Lord mayor so I support 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:09.480 this notice of motion I thank you for 00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:11.440 moving it I thank you for accepting the 00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:13.240 amendment uh and I look forward to 00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:16.240 working very very closely with Community 00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:17.640 during what will be a difficult 00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:19.839 Redevelopment process to ensure that in 00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.519 the end we have more public housing in 00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.160 the inner city than we started with 00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:28.680 thank you Council Scott Council El 00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:31.200 thank you Lord mayor um just briefly I'd 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:32.680 strongly support your lord May minute 00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:35.519 and I wanted to speak um in relation to 00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:37.240 the amendment around mandating that all 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.279 tenants have a right to return and thank 00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:41.319 you for including this I think 00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:43.160 unfortunately the experience water is 00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:44.759 one of the few communities where I think 00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:46.119 there's now been a letter where tenants 00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:48.440 say they have a right to return um yes 00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:50.599 under the new labor government but the 00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:52.519 current process for people when they're 00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:54.559 relocated unfortunately under the labor 00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:56.359 government has continued what was under 00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:57.480 the former government government and 00:33:57.559 --> 00:33:59.680 it's incredibly cruel as it says in your 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:02.319 um Lord Merl minute the process is up to 00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:04.440 two office of housing offers of Housing 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:05.920 and the people that we've seen moved in 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.280 the last 18 months you get a letter and 00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:10.199 it says this is the offer that you have 00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:12.360 go look at this one and you're not told 00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:13.880 what the next offer is you don't have a 00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:15.559 right to a second offer so it's 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.800 basically a take it or leave it so 00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:19.480 people have a and even if it's the 00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:21.800 housing is completely unsuitable it's 00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:23.199 been reported to me public housing 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:24.519 tenants are told what you're going to 00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:26.440 get next is worse I won't tell you where 00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:28.000 that is but I can tell you it's not 00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:29.880 likely to be near where you are now this 00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:31.599 is the best offer you're going to get 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:33.119 that's the reality of someone who's 00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:34.559 being forced to move under current 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.920 relation processes like at 82 Wentworth 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.480 Park Road under this government it's 00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:40.840 incredibly important that we as a 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:42.320 council start to tell some of those 00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:44.159 stories that is the real experience of 00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:45.719 people on the ground that looks 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:47.760 different than the paper it's incredibly 00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:49.719 important that we commit that things 00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.199 like there as that we will fight for a 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:53.880 mandate that people have a right to be 00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:55.920 returned because it's not in a policy 00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:57.559 it's not in legisl that people have a 00:34:57.639 --> 00:34:58.880 right to come back to their homes that 00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:00.039 they've lived in even if they've lived 00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:03.280 there for 30 years and um a letter from 00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:05.480 a government which which has histories 00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:06.880 where people have a history of broken 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.239 promises is no kind of real commitment 00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:11.079 so thank you in particular for including 00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:14.199 that Amendment thank you so um I'll move 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:16.320 the recommendation with that one change 00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.440 to C1 which says develop a water 00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:21.800 specific relocations policy a mandate 00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:23.280 that tenants who wish to return to 00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:25.880 watero can can be assured that they will 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:27.480 be able to do so in accordance with the 00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.519 minister Minister Rose Jackson's 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:32.639 undertaking so I'll put that to you all 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:36.239 those in favor say I those against 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:38.000 Carrriage un 00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:41.239 nestly item 3.4 more publicly accessible 00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.280 Parkland at Mo Park thank you this is a 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:46.280 good news story Council a transformation 00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:47.880 is taking place in Sydney in the area's 00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:50.599 neighboring Mo Park when Parkland at Mo 00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:52.760 Park was allocated for a nine-hole golf 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.519 course back in 1913 the surrounding land 00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:58.199 uses were predominantly IND industrial 00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:00.159 it's been the policy of successive state 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:01.519 government since 00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:04.039 1995 to convert the former South City 00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:05.800 Industrial Area into the green square 00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.840 urban renewal area and by 2040 up to 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:11.320 880,000 people will be living in the 00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:14.719 area within 2 kilometers of Mo Park 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.599 while the city is creating 40 parks and 00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:18.360 playgrounds as part of the green square 00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:20.840 renewal small Parks don't provide the 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:22.880 same opportunity for people living in 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:24.679 high density Apartments to stride out 00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:27.639 and distress renew or commune with 00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:30.920 nature or kick a ball with the kids for 00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:32.719 Generations much of the land originally 00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:34.679 set aside for Park land at more park has 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.280 been alienated for other purposes large 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:38.760 areas have been dedicated to 00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:40.840 professional sporting codes various 00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:43.840 Recreational Sports and 18ho golf course 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:45.679 as well as Parkland lost to the Eastern 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:48.039 distributor the super center and the 00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:50.800 ongoing Al alienation of onr Carr parking 00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.559 which is set to continue unlocking more 00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:55.599 Park land at more park for wider public 00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:58.360 use is part of the Sydney strategic plan 00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.559 sustainable Sydney 2030 to 2050 00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:03.039 continuing the vision in built up inner 00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:05.760 city areas where land is expensive is an 00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:07.199 eight hole I think we need to ask 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:09.440 ourselves is an 18 hole golf course 00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:11.480 really the best use of precious public 00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:13.559 Parkland the question is fund 00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:15.960 fundamentally one of equity and putting 00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:17.920 public land to its best use in the 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.840 community interest the city's proposals 00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:23.039 convert the existing 18-hole M Park Golf 00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:25.039 Course into a nine-hole facility 00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:26.960 retaining the popular driving rate the 00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:29.480 clubhouse and the maintenance Depot and 00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:31.480 requiring minimal conf reconfiguration 00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:34.119 of the Fairway and greens when we ask 00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:35.360 the community what they thought of our 00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:37.480 proposal in 2020 unsurprisingly people 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:38.960 living immediately to the west of the 00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:41.559 course in areas like Redfern water and 00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:43.679 zetland were overwhelmingly supportive 00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:46.239 of reconfiguring the course to create 00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:48.880 public Parkland golfers especially from 00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:51.199 the Eastern suburbs opposed the change 00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:53.480 despite that there were 12 other courses 00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:56.039 within 10 kilm meters of more Park that 00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:58.039 our propos proposal retains a nine-hole 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.079 golf course and the popular driving 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.280 range last month following the city's 00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.760 advocacy supported by U Paul Nicola 00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:06.800 business Sydney and the former Premier 00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:09.239 New South Wales Bob Carr the New South 00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:11.920 Wales the former premier of New South 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:13.679 Wales Bob Carr the new Southwest Premier 00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:15.440 Chris means announced plans to convert 00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.239 up to 20 hectares of more Park Golf 00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:19.960 Course into publicly accessible Parkland 00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.079 when the current operation agreement 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:23.480 expires in 00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:25.719 2026 I thank and congratulate the 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:27.280 premier for accepting the city's Fair 00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.519 proposal it is important for growing 00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.239 densely populated communities to have 00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:33.639 access to Parkland the New South Wales 00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:34.880 government will conduct public 00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:36.480 consultation and release a discussion 00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:38.400 paper to guide that consultation 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:40.199 including the current operator of Mo 00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:42.039 Park Golf Course on the future of the 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:43.760 remaining holes and the operation of the 00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:45.920 clubhouse and driving range it's 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:47.440 imperative that the city encourages 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:49.159 local residents to get involved in this 00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:51.159 consultation and have their say on the 00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:53.639 future of this public Parkland therefore 00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:55.519 I'm recommending that Council commend 00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:57.000 the new southwes government government's 00:38:57.079 --> 00:38:58.880 commitment to convert up to 20 hectares 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:00.320 of the golf course into publicly 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.360 accessible Parkland when the current 00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:04.599 operating agreement expires in 00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:07.000 2026 and that the CEO encourages the 00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:08.760 community to participate in new southw 00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:10.599 the new southwes government's public 00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:12.880 consultation progam process that the 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:14.119 city and that the city makes a 00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:15.880 submission in response to the discussion 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:20.440 paper um so I'll put that to you 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:25.119 Council Council Scott thanks Lord mayor 00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:28.079 um it was great to be able to uh be with 00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:30.000 you and the premier to announce the 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:31.719 government's decision when the lease 00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:35.480 expires on more par Golf Course to uh 00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:37.480 publicly consult with the community 00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:39.639 about um the form of public space they 00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:42.000 would like for half of that golf course 00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.039 of course having a nine-hole golf course 00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:46.519 remain on the site uh Lord mayor I've 00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:48.119 submitted an amendment that I'd like to 00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:51.760 ask you to consider uh in point B1 um 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:53.679 just to delete the words communicate the 00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:55.159 successful outcome of the city's 00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:57.400 advocacy to convert up to 20 hectares of 00:39:57.480 --> 00:39:59.199 the more Park Golf Course to accessible 00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:01.880 public Parkland and so Lord mayor that 00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:04.559 leaves the city's CEO uh encouraging the 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:06.400 community to participate in the 00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.360 government's public consultation process 00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:09.679 about the future of this important 00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:12.320 Parkland and to make a submission Lord 00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:15.639 mayor but I just think it is um a public 00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.639 consultation it's important not to um uh 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:21.960 make that a political 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.400 communication uh Lord mayor we know that 00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:27.000 in green square uh it was zoned for 00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.000 30,000 people that's now up to 880,000 00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.639 there's an incredible shortage of green 00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:35.480 space in this area uh and uh I 00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:37.320 understand how passionate golfers are 00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:39.159 about this space I've certainly heard 00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:41.599 from many of them over the course of the 00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:43.960 last few weeks since the announcement uh 00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:46.760 but L May we need this open Green Space 00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:48.440 it is still the case in the city of 00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:51.039 Sydney currently that we have a huge 00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.800 shortage of the amount of Green Space 00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:56.440 per capita and particularly surrounding 00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:59.599 the areas of green square zetland uh and 00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:02.079 those uh areas if you're going to have 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:04.320 80,000 people living in that area it is 00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.119 incredibly important that we open up 00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:08.719 that public space uh I'm sure we will 00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:10.400 hear from the community about whether 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:12.679 they like passive Recreation space 00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:14.280 whether they like sporting Fields 00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:15.880 whether they'd like ovals what they 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:17.920 would like to see there uh but it is 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.320 incredibly important to ensure that we 00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:22.760 deliver those 880,000 residents uh one 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.480 of the densest parts of the world uh 00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:27.960 enough green space to be able to have a 00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:30.679 livable Community Lord mayor uh so I 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:33.360 support this um meril minute uh again it 00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:35.079 was great to be part of the announcement 00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.000 with you and the premier uh and I hope 00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:38.519 you can support the 00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:40.400 amendment thank you Council Scott I 00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:42.280 don't support the amendment I think we 00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.320 should um uh do as I've I've recommended 00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:47.840 to council communicate the successful 00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:49.920 outcome of the city's advocacy to to 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:51.760 convert up to 20 hectares of more Park 00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:53.880 Golf Course to accessible public park 00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:55.760 land and encourage the community to 00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:57.519 particip ipate in the new South WS 00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.199 government's public consultation process 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.280 on the future of this important Parkland 00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:04.000 this is really important because I have 00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:05.960 to tell you last time around when we 00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:08.199 were communicating this to people um 00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:10.880 there was the most amazing um uh 00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.159 campaign from golfers from the North 00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:14.840 Shore and the Eastern suburbs who really 00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:18.440 like this course um and they they drive 00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:19.920 their very expensive Carrs I got to tell 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:21.719 you when I was at a meeting of the the 00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.679 community board just a week ago that 00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:26.480 there was even a Rolls voice in the Carr 00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:30.599 park so um it's it's not for the people 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:33.760 of Red Fern and S Hills and watero and 00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:36.440 green square this has been used by 00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:40.119 people who drive to to more park park in 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:44.800 the park uh and and and play golf and 00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:48.280 um and as I said in 1913 when this golf 00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:50.559 course was um created by the then city 00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.199 council who also built the clubhouse the 00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:55.079 surrounding area was industrial but it 00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:58.239 has been um the commitment of both 00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:00.360 successive governments labor and and a 00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:03.760 coalition to have this former sdne 00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:06.199 Industrial Area become the major Urban 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:09.719 mule area of Australia and the 80,000 is 00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:11.840 made made up of the 60,000 that's 00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:14.559 expected at Green square and the 20,000 00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:16.400 that's expected in red fern Waterloo 00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:17.960 redevelopments we've been talking about 00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:19.519 just one of the waterl redevelopments 00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:21.920 tonight so um and that's going to be 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:24.440 within 2 kilometers of more Park so this 00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:26.559 is this is a really important need and 00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:29.519 it's it's fantastic that um the the 00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:32.079 premier has has listened and responded 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:33.679 and it's really interesting that that 00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:35.840 former Premier Bob Carr was the one who 00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:38.079 uh advocated to him because he was 00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:40.039 actually the premier when Craig nlls 00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:42.239 announced that uh the forers South City 00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:46.599 indust would become the future um uh in 00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:50.480 uh the future um major housing area of 00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:53.679 of Sydney and all of Australia then so 00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:55.519 um there's a sort of continuity there 00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:57.239 that I think is really nice 00:43:57.320 --> 00:43:59.599 Synergy but i' I'd like to lead the 00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:03.039 recommendation as I have put to 00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:07.280 you so um Council won are you seconding 00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:10.400 the amendment or you wish to speak yes 00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:12.280 is there a is there a second of for the 00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:16.159 amendment uh Council Elmore Council 00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:19.119 won thank you Lord mayor I acknowledged 00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:20.760 that previously I met with Club 00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:23.280 management I also acknowledge the fact 00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:25.960 that my grandson who's now four has been 00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:28.480 attending this golf course with his 00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:32.599 uncle his grandfather and his stepdad so 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:34.639 this has been used not by people that 00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.280 use uh rolls-royces but rather that 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:42.000 people use Holden so in terms of the 00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:44.800 courses management and members um they 00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:47.400 are really disappointed in this uh 00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:50.280 announcement it is a public course it's 00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:53.679 not the RO Sydney I note that the moall 00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:55.559 park is one of the more accessible golf 00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:57.920 courses in the area it's not exclusive 00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:00.119 and it doesn't cost an arm and leag 00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.000 those people that do live in the Eastern 00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:04.280 suburbs not all of them actually have 00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:07.079 the million dooll homes they do actually 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.119 access the likes of these golf courses 00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:10.840 but they cannot do it in their local 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:14.039 areas because they cannot afford it this 00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.159 is a public course and can be accessed 00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:19.920 by those in a a certainly less expensive 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.840 way it is a bit Rich for successive 00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:24.960 state governments to sell off sves of 00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:27.559 settlin to major developers and then cry 00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:30.360 foul when there isn't enough Green Space 00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:32.719 and I certainly take exception to some 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.440 of the planning that's taken place that 00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:36.199 has not ensured that there has been 00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:38.920 green spaces it's important that the 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:41.280 community be consulted going forward and 00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:43.400 I support those recommendations but I 00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:46.920 will not be voting for this motion I'll 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:49.159 either abstain or vote against as I 00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:51.400 don't think it's a state government's I 00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:52.639 do not believe the state government 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:54.800 should be commended for such a 00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:57.119 motion 00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:59.280 so do I have any other speakers um I'll 00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:00.800 put the amendment to you all those in 00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:02.320 favor say 00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:05.519 I the 00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:10.199 amendment those 00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:12.639 against so I'll put the motion to you 00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:14.320 all those in favor say I sorry Lord 00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.079 mayor can I just ask a question then 00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:18.119 what is the communications budget for 00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:22.039 the city's advocacy on this item um I I 00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:23.280 can't tell you what that is now 00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:24.760 councilor Scott we're dealing with a 00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:26.880 motion about doing it so I'm sure we can 00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:29.039 get the information from the CEO when 00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.159 that work take takes place could we ask 00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:35.320 what the funding capies please then 00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:38.599 before it's considered sorry could we 00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:40.639 ask what the funding cap for this item 00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:42.000 is because it's not detailed in the 00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:44.559 resolution how much City money will be 00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:48.159 spent to undertake this 00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:50.679 resolution well the see can't say now 00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.199 that that'll have to be uh um Council 00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:55.159 will be informed probably by Co update 00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:57.760 perhaps yeah when we have that 00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:01.079 information so um sorry Lord mayor 00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:02.599 there's an existing 00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:04.360 budget and there must be a 00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:06.320 Communications budget within the city's 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:09.880 budget so how much of the city's budget 00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:12.199 that we have approved is dedicated to 00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.119 this either it's new and it's a new 00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.039 budget in which case we have to resolve 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:18.559 an amount or it's not new and it's in an 00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:20.519 existing bucket how much of the existing 00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:22.400 bucket will be used we can't resolve it 00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:24.039 without that 00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:26.239 information well I don't agree with that 00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:30.480 um Co do can you clarify the position or 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.400 repeat what I've said um so Lord mayor 00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:35.000 certainly we could provide some details 00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:36.360 about what that communication will 00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:39.719 entail if the um Bo me minut it is 00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:42.280 passed so you're asking us to do it and 00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:44.119 so now we know what we're being asked to 00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:47.039 do um generally the communication that 00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:49.199 we do around things like this is a lot a 00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:51.239 lot of it it would be social media where 00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:53.519 we would say to people um this has now 00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:56.760 been resolved uh and then we would say 00:47:56.840 --> 00:47:58.480 you know here there is a discussion 00:47:58.559 --> 00:47:59.719 paper if you would like to make a 00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:01.719 submission through Sydney your those 00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:02.960 sorts of things so a lot of that would 00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:05.480 be social I suspect we might do a letter 00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.639 box drop um that's that's often what we 00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:10.320 do when we're asking people to know 00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:12.039 about something and to participate in 00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:14.400 some consultation so they would be the 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:17.440 usual elements uh as Lord M said we're 00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:20.760 just being asked to do this so um and 00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:22.800 also the discussion paper hasn't been 00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:24.719 prepared we need to know what the state 00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:26.920 government is planning to do in terms of 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:28.960 that discussion paper and how they plan 00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:30.920 to communicate and then I guess we could 00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:33.679 prepare a a CO update just outlining 00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:35.320 what we're planning to do thank you Lord 00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:38.360 mayor thank you CEO thanks uh Lord mayor 00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:39.760 and then through you Lord mayor given 00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:41.840 we're asking the CEO to do it I assume 00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:44.119 it will be done in a non-political way 00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:45.920 so it will be issued either under the 00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:48.159 name of the CEO or under the name of 00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:50.599 Staff no I I have the delegation to 00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:52.719 speak on behalf of the city and it it'll 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:55.360 be I would expect would be um part of 00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:57.840 our normal Communications but it's 00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.440 really important that um we let people 00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:02.800 know what has happened officially and 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:05.119 that we um encourage them to make 00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:07.000 submissions to the government this is 00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:09.880 really really important um for people 00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:11.119 who have lived in the area for many 00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:13.480 years and watched this bit of more Park 00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:15.519 lost and that bit of more Park lost to 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:18.480 whether it be a road program or a or the 00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:22.079 Super Center um and um the the high 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.039 fence around the golf course with a keep 00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:26.400 out sign on it uh for all these people 00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:29.199 moving into these um very dense 00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:31.360 Apartments um this has been a really big 00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:32.880 issue for a long time and our people 00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:35.159 will want to know that the government is 00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:37.719 doing this uh and that they have a right 00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:39.719 to tell the government that they 00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:42.760 supported and what aspect of um PA of 00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:44.800 recreation that they they're keen on 00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:47.800 having in order to um to exercise with 00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:49.639 their family that's really basically 00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:51.360 what it's about it's really really 00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:54.199 important um that uh that people 00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:56.519 understand that it that they they need 00:49:56.599 --> 00:49:59.719 to do this because last time round the 00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:01.440 the golfers as I said from the north and 00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:04.199 E subers mounted a huge campaign and the 00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:06.400 liberal the coalition government uh gave 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:08.280 into that and that was incredibly 00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:11.119 disappointing so I'll put the amendment 00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:13.039 to you all those in favor done the 00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:14.360 amendment sorry I'll put the motion to 00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:16.199 you all those in favor say 00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:19.519 I those 00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:23.639 against Carrried with three 00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:28.960 against um yes look um I I have been 00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.880 asked to um to ask Council if they're 00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:33.760 happy to have photographs taken from the 00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:35.679 gallery it's not usually the custom 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:38.679 unless we um ask the council if they're 00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:40.079 happy about that I'm happy about that 00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:42.239 does does anyone have an objection to 00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:44.679 photos being taken no so if you wish to 00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:47.480 take a photo you 00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:50.360 can 00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:56.800 sorry oh so I'm going to put um no yes 00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:58.559 so I'm now going to move a procedural 00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:02.559 motion that item 15.1 barlay for Ati may 00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:05.679 be con considered um prior to item four 00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:07.400 so we're going to go to that next and 00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.280 I'd like to welcome all the relatives 00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:12.400 the the children the grandchildren the 00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:14.599 great grandchildren of of of of Auntie 00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:16.920 esma who are here um in the gallery 00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:20.199 today very warm welcome to you and um 00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:21.719 I'll put the procedural motion all those 00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:24.719 in favor say I I sorry second to Lord 00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:27.719 mayor to you or those in FA say I those 00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:33.199 against declare it Cy thank you um 00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:37.360 so Council Davis thank you Lord 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.719 mayor I just want to thank everyone for 00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:41.800 their patience today the timbery family 00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:43.519 that's here today and thank you for 00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:45.400 coming in and thank the city staff for 00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:47.599 supporting uh this whole process which 00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:51.000 is wonderful an Esme was the youngest of 00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:54.159 five children born to Hubert timy and 00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:55.880 Elizabeth Butler 00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:58.159 she was an extraordinary lady a proud 00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:01.760 bigal woman and renowned customary shell 00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:04.920 artist who had a huge impact across our 00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.400 first Nations and broader communities 00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:10.360 especially the city of Sydney AE asme 00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:13.599 was born at uh at one of her family's 00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:16.440 fishing camps at Hill 60 which is a 00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:19.400 Heritage listed Aboriginal site at 00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:22.360 Military Road Port camper the city of 00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.320 woolongong in New South Wales and as 00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:27.840 May's great grandmother was fondly known 00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.239 as the Queen T Queen Emma Timber and 00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:34.239 lived with the hill family in SAR Hills 00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:37.159 at the age of 10 a saltwater woman 00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:39.760 Auntie Esme grew up on Seafood provided 00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:42.440 by her father Hubbert and grandfather 00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:45.039 traveling up and down the coast feasting 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:48.639 on seasonal fish for those who didn't 00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:50.679 know the timbury family they are a 00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:52.960 prominent Aboriginal family with 00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:54.719 cultural connections to the coastal 00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:55.719 Sydney 00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:59.000 and the South Coastal in Sydney's 00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:01.360 history her family a well-known 00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:04.039 fisherman dating back to the great grand 00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:06.599 to the great-grandfather Hubert and 00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:10.239 great-grandfather George trimmer timbery 00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:13.280 who who applied to the government and 00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:16.280 was granted a boat to gain a livelihood 00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:19.440 by fishing for his community and almost 00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:21.920 150 years later the New South Wales 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.199 government named one of their Riverboat 00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:27.199 fairies after the great granddaughter of 00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:30.840 George trimmer timbery and S May has 00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:33.320 been described as a proud member of the 00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:36.199 timbery family and she continued the 00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:38.519 Timur artwork traditions and is 00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:41.199 wellknown and internationally renowned 00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.639 for her shell work shell work became a 00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:45.719 traditional practice dating back to her 00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:49.159 great grandmother Queen Emma Timur AE 00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:51.679 Esme started showw work when she was a 00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:54.480 little girl learning to watch learning 00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:57.000 by watching her mother and aunties the 00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:59.840 first thing she ever made was a brooch 00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:03.280 at the age of five as she got older she 00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:06.519 Advanced to slippers jewelry boxes and 00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:09.400 harbor Bridges and she went on to when 00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:12.000 the New South Wales indigenous art prize 00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.199 in 2005 for a beautiful blue Harbor 00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:18.719 Bridge the timbery family is so proud 00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:20.960 that this family tradition and customary 00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:23.800 practice continues with her daughter 00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:26.079 Marilyn who's here today 00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:28.519 today uh who I had the pleasure of 00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:31.559 meeting earlier this week at Philip Bay 00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:34.199 along with family here today Michelle 00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:35.400 and 00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:39.039 Karen in 2007 ABC made a beautiful 00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:41.599 document documentary about Auntie Esme 00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:45.440 and her shell work she sells seashells 00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:48.519 Auntie Esme had nine children 26 00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:52.039 grandchildren 51 great grandchildren and 00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:53.840 five great great 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:56.639 grandchildren well wow the creative 00:54:56.719 --> 00:54:58.840 practice lab worldclass performance 00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:00.639 building at the University of New South 00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:03.800 Wales was named the Esme Tim creative 00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:07.039 practice lab in her honor Auntie esay 00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:10.079 had a very F had very fond memories of 00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:13.239 day trips by the fery with her family so 00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:15.400 it was only fitting that the transport 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:17.400 New South Wales in 00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:21.199 2022 acknowledged uh Auntie Esme for her 00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:23.440 achievements by also naming one of their 00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:26.559 River class fairies after to her we are 00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:29.280 very fortunate that Auntie esme's work 00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:31.039 is on display throughout our city 00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:34.440 including the Museum of contempor Art in 00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:38.280 2015 Esme designed a beautiful sstory 00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:40.960 shell art installed in the southern 00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:43.519 Gateway of the bangaroo Waterfront 00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:47.599 prominade in 2002 aune Esme shelled our 00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:50.119 very own landmarks in Sydney including 00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:52.039 the opera house and the Centerpoint 00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:55.199 Tower and her favorite piece to Shell is 00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:57.719 the Harbor Bridge she is Remembered in 00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:01.039 the laparo Aboriginal uh Community as a 00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:03.559 highly respected Elder and a source of 00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:07.360 knowledge her family and and we will 00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:10.320 miss her dearly but should but should be 00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:13.039 so proud of the impact an has May made 00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:15.719 during her 92 years and her significant 00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:18.960 contribution to our city and Nation Lord 00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:22.559 May today's Viet is a first step for the 00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:25.480 city of Sydney to recognize yet mother 00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:27.480 one of our treasured Elders who has made 00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:30.079 a significant contribution to the truth 00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:32.400 telling for our nation thank you thank 00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:34.239 you counc Davis I'm very happy to second 00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:36.039 that thank 00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:39.480 you so um I'll put the motion to you all 00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:43.559 those in favor say I those against 00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:46.599 declare it Carrried unly now we'll I move 00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:50.480 that we um stand for minute silence to 00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:56.880 uh in respect of Auntie Esme 00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:26.800 for 00:57:56.639 --> 00:57:58.840 thank 00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:13.199 you so thank you very much for coming 00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:17.119 in wonderful to see you 00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:26.719 all 00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:28.559 here's one of the great great 00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.440 grandchildren going 00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:42.159 out one 00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:45.920 person or one 00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:56.719 couple so we're going to five now are we 00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:09.880 sorry item four memoranda by the chief 00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:11.840 executive officer there are none item 00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:14.360 five matters for tabling 5.1 disclosure 00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:17.800 of Interest returns so I move that there 00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:19.760 the um disclosures of Interest returns 00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:22.079 to be received and noted seconded by the 00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:24.880 deput Lord mayor put that to you or this 00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:28.239 say I those against deare Carrried deny 00:59:28.320 --> 00:59:30.719 thank you uh 5.2 00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:33.719 petitions so we have a petition from uh 00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:37.840 councelor Jarrett um to reverse Sydney 00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:39.639 mayor's decision to prohibit the town 00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:41.960 hall being lit with white and blue 00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:43.679 Council Jarrett it be resolved that the 00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:46.760 petition be received and 00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:50.280 noted sorry thank you Lord mayor um I've 00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:54.119 been requested by members of the um city 00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:56.760 of Sydney Jewish Israeli community in 00:59:56.840 --> 00:59:59.440 particular a lovely woman Philipa Jax 00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:00.760 and some 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:04.360 1,129 residents of our city um to 01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:06.599 present this her petition with regard to 01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:08.400 the failure of this Council to stand up 01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:10.760 against the r of anti-Semitism in the 01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:13.159 city of Sydney and specifically to 01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:15.800 denounce the acts of anti-Semitism that 01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:18.360 we've been seeing in the last um couple 01:00:18.440 --> 01:00:20.639 of weeks as you'll know at the last 01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:22.199 council meeting I moved a notice of 01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:25.159 motion to attempt to stand with those 01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:28.199 members of our Israeli Jewish Community 01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:30.159 who' have experienced increasing and 01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:33.239 unnecessary amounts of anti-Semitism 01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:36.679 both here in Sydney and New South Wales 01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:38.239 what we all thought had been relegated 01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:41.119 in the 20s and 30s has risen its head 01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:44.440 again here in the City by tabling this 01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:46.440 petition I want to highlight that 01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:48.800 residents in the city of Sydney feel let 01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:52.239 down sCarred frightened and ostracized by 01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:53.440 its 01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:56.159 Council the fact is that this petition 01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:57.880 is a byproduct of the Lord mayor's 01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:00.119 failure to address Miss Jackson and her 01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:01.840 community's own individual 01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:03.800 correspondence is presented to you in 01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:07.480 the um Council papers and it's 01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:09.960 symptomatic of the bigger issue not 01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:11.679 listening to our community and not 01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:13.199 working with our 01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:15.719 community whilst there are multiple 01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:18.039 sides to this very sensitive issue the 01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:20.599 position taken by the city of Sydney 01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:22.880 highlighted the complacency in the face 01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:25.280 of increasing amounts of hate and 01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:28.519 diversity division sorry in our 01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:30.639 community the Lord mayor's minute 01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:33.320 denounced terrorism and anti-Semitism in 01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:35.719 the broadest sense but fail to account 01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:38.199 for the direct issues that have affected 01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:40.960 our residents and their safety this 01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:43.280 petition recognizes the anger and 01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:45.679 frustration from our Jewish Israeli 01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:48.679 community in our failing to specifically 01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:51.480 address the events on October the 7th 01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:53.599 and the subsequent anti-Semitism that 01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:56.239 we've seen arise here in Sydney 01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:58.480 therefore I table this petition to raise 01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:00.480 the importance of the desire for 01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:02.440 residents in our city to have their 01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:05.840 concerns heard in a context where we are 01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:08.559 meant to celebrate diversity and 01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:11.519 encourage welcoming our communities it's 01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:13.639 quite clear that there are sections of 01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:16.440 our community that feel that this is not 01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:19.639 being met I commend the petition to 01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:23.800 you um thank you uh councilor Jared um 01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:27.000 the petition Miss uh Jax initially wrote 01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:30.440 to me on the 23rd of October and sent a 01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:33.119 copy of the petition to me and she rece 01:02:33.199 --> 01:02:35.920 and I and I responded to her on the 8th 01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:38.119 of November and I said that at our 01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:40.519 meeting on the 23rd of October Council 01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:42.960 unanimously resolved to endorse my Lord 01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:45.039 Merl minute on standing with our 01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:47.440 communities and the cause of Peace this 01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:50.360 included a commitment to be con that to 01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:51.880 be consistent with the objective of 01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:54.280 maintaining social harmony the city 01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:56.559 should not display any partisan symbols 01:02:56.639 --> 01:02:58.639 associated with the current conflict 01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:00.480 that was supported unanimously and I had 01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:06.199 told u m m Jacks that on the 23rd of 01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:10.119 October so I'll put the motion to you 01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:12.480 that to be received and noted seconded 01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:15.280 by Council Ganon all those in favor say 01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:19.880 I those against declare Carrried thank 01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:22.199 you item six report of the corporate 01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:25.800 finance properties and tenders committee 01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:27.480 Lord 01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:30.719 mayor thank you Lord mayor um LA mayor 01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:33.840 we had the um uh the corporate finance 01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:36.400 and property tenance committee last week 01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:38.360 um we had um 01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:41.800 six eight items um including 01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:43.519 confirmation minutes and statement of 01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:45.920 ethical obligations and disclosures of 01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:49.719 interest um in the on on the agenda uh 01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:53.039 La may we had um robust discussions on 01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:54.719 the um on on the item 01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:58.199 um on the agenda and ID like to move the 01:03:58.280 --> 01:04:01.039 um the items in global uh noting that um 01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:03.559 LA mayor noting that item 01:04:03.639 --> 01:04:07.159 6.7 has a relevant to 01:04:07.239 --> 01:04:09.280 memorandum May I'll move the items in 01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:12.639 glob so that's seconded by Council elore 01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:14.719 I'm happy to second that Council ADM 01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:17.079 Council 01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:25.599 Elmore 01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:27.039 I think 01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:31.199 that ah too many mics on once um took a 01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:32.800 long time to say I wanted to ask the 01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:35.039 staff a question and potentially move 01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:38.119 administrative Amendment for 6.3 so I'd 01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:39.559 like to request that not be included in 01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:43.119 the global so item 6.3 you want it taken 01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:48.119 out um so we'll move sorry can I also 01:04:48.199 --> 01:04:52.079 have 6.7 up thank you 01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:56.159 6.7 01:04:56.440 --> 01:04:59.920 so may move the paper in globo apart 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:04.000 from 6.3 and 6.7 um that's correct L I'm 01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:05.920 happy to second that I'll put that too 01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:08.880 all those in favor say I those 01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:11.400 against um I'll put that again because 01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:15.559 some people didn't raise their hand um 01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:21.719 I can you just repeat what you're 01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:24.519 putting to the council so the has moved 01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:26.960 that all the items be uh dealt with in 01:05:27.039 --> 01:05:29.679 global because of the uh long discussion 01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:32.199 and the votes of last Monday two 01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:34.519 councilors have asked for items to be 01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:37.519 taken out and they are 6.3 and 6.7 so 01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:39.000 now the deputy Lord mayor is moving all 01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:40.519 the items on the finance paper apart 01:05:40.599 --> 01:05:44.039 from 6.3 and 6.7 and I as a second I've 01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:46.039 seconded that so I'll put that to you 01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:48.719 all those in favor say I those against 01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:51.079 declare it Carrried unanimously thank you 01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:54.360 Deputy Lord mayor um Lord mayor item 6.3 01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:57.519 is um the city of Sydney 2022 23 annual 01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:00.039 reporting and Public Presentation of the 01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:03.280 2022 23 financial statements and audit 01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:07.079 reports to council the report uh 01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:09.000 presents the city's annual financial 01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:12.440 statements for 2022 23 along with the 01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:14.840 Auditors reports to the public which are 01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:17.599 currently on exhibition until uh 28th of 01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:20.079 November council is asked to adopt the 01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:23.000 2022 23 annual financial report subject 01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:26.159 to submission received and Endor the 01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:29.000 2022 23 annual report including the 01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:31.400 statutory returns financial statements 01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:35.400 delivery program to 2022 to 26 progress 01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:39.159 reports for 2022 um 23 as shown um at 01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:42.119 the attachment A and C uh Council should 01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:45.440 also note that the 2022 23 annual report 01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:48.320 on the city's inclusion disability 01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:53.039 action plan uh 21 to 2025 and the 20 22 01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:56.440 to 23 green report in the 01:06:56.519 --> 01:07:01.400 attachments um La I'll move the 01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:04.000 recommendation thank you deput mayor so 01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:08.280 now we'll go to um I'll put I'll put 01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:10.599 that to you all 01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:12.800 the second 01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:15.079 that I I have 01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:18.159 second 01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:25.800 so okay Council 01:07:25.880 --> 01:07:29.480 elore I think the Lord May um thank you 01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:30.800 I've got a question for staff a 01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:32.599 potential Amendment but in case this is 01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:34.199 already addressed in the papers I'll ask 01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:36.400 the staff the question first um this is 01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:39.159 a great annual report I um as always 01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:40.719 enjoyed digesting all the affordable 01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:42.039 housing data there's an amazing amount 01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:44.960 of data particularly in the summary um 01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:47.079 we previously moved an amendment at a 01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:48.599 council meeting that we start reporting 01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:49.800 how we're tracking against our 01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:51.360 percentages of affordable housing every 01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:54.960 quarterly report this um if I can direct 01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:58.320 counselors to the annual report delivery 01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:00.280 program progress report if you have it 01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:02.039 with you that's where we summarize this 01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:03.400 is our Target and this is how we're 01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:05.760 going against it so by 2030 there'll be 01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:08.559 a 15% reduction in waste um this year 01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:10.920 there was an 11% reduction Etc um very 01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:13.559 straightforwardly reported we unless I 01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:15.280 have missed it in the papers I don't 01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:17.840 believe we report how we're going as a 01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:20.199 percentage of built affordable housing 01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:22.119 for the last Financial year so if I've 01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:23.600 missed that in the report please let me 01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:25.840 do we do um report it in terms of public 01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:27.000 housing and there's some great other 01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:28.880 data that um I think should stay in 01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:31.159 there but that headline figure to we 01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:34.600 know um our goal is 7.5% of social 01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:38.039 housing by 2036 and 7.5% affordable 01:08:38.119 --> 01:08:41.960 housing by 2036 we're at 7.8% for social 01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:43.479 housing so sadly we think we're going to 01:08:43.560 --> 01:08:44.680 go backwards because of what state 01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:48.039 government's doing um but I don't see a 01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:50.560 percentage of how much affordable 01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:54.680 housing we we is in in the city against 01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:57.039 our 7.5% if I've missed that I know 01:08:57.119 --> 01:08:58.600 that's a bit technical I was reading it 01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:00.159 but I think um those are our two 01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:01.800 headline figures and we have a lot of 01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:03.399 other data but I don't believe we have 01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:05.600 that data if um if we don't I would like 01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:07.359 to move an amendment that we include 01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:09.239 that data in the final version of the 01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:11.479 annual report but I'll ask staff if I've 01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:13.560 missed it if it's in there 01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:16.680 somewhere see you I'm through you Lord 01:09:16.760 --> 01:09:18.520 mayor so 01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:24.439 I so I'm looking over here Council oh so 01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:27.119 that's in the annual report so what you 01:09:27.199 --> 01:09:28.720 would like so I'm just making sure I 01:09:28.800 --> 01:09:29.840 understand what you would like is that 01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:34.680 in our annual report we report against a 01:09:34.760 --> 01:09:36.399 the percentage of the different 01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:38.960 categories of housing as a percentage of 01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:41.239 total housing that 01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:45.319 year I think we couldn't do 01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:48.119 that anyone saying no over that side of 01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:51.560 the table I think we can do that um we 01:09:51.640 --> 01:09:54.039 will qualify it obviously because as all 01:09:54.119 --> 01:09:57.000 housing goes up the the number of social 01:09:57.079 --> 01:09:58.800 affordable housing could have actually 01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:02.319 increased but as a percentage it may 01:10:02.399 --> 01:10:03.720 look like it's decreased so we will 01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:05.640 qualify that but can we do that we could 01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:07.119 do that I think Mr y wants to say 01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:10.119 something do you wish to say 01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:17.920 something do a number can you turn that 01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:19.600 off so he can turn his 01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:22.960 on it would be easier to reconcile the 01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:25.159 actual number number of 01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:28.800 built by literally getting the status of 01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:32.479 each development but 01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:36.840 against the number of total Apartments 01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:40.920 built at that time it would be uh 01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:43.600 perhaps a little bit more imprecise or 01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:45.439 difficult to get the exact number of 01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:48.239 private Apartments having 01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:52.560 reached uh occupation 01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:55.640 certificate 01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:04.119 okay if I may Lord mayor if it's okay 01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:07.439 and if if that that we will report the 01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:12.079 number and if and and if we can a 01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:14.760 percentage so I I understand what missan 01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:17.640 is saying is because exactly when do you 01:11:17.720 --> 01:11:22.079 count something you know is it you know 01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:23.960 if it's nearly that near the end of 01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:26.119 completion anyway I think we'll give it 01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:28.960 a go is what we I'm saying as long as um 01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:31.199 Council El that's okay that we both have 01:11:31.279 --> 01:11:36.279 a number and a percentage um if possible 01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:38.560 thanks thank you that's great on that 01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:39.920 basis I will move the following 01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:42.119 amendment that I think does that job so 01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:45.279 that we um endorse the annual report and 01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:47.079 then I've proposed proposing an 01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:48.720 amendment that we add at the end 01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:50.760 including the following amendment that 01:11:50.840 --> 01:11:52.399 the reporting on progress against 01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:54.039 council's affordable and social housing 01:11:54.119 --> 01:11:56.880 targets be updated to also report the 01:11:56.960 --> 01:11:58.560 amount of affordable housing social 01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:00.640 housing that has been built that is 01:12:00.720 --> 01:12:03.199 completed if possible as a percentage 01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:06.800 for the 2023 Financial 01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:10.880 year okay so that seconded by Council 01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:13.640 Ganon I'll I'll put that to you all 01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:15.119 those in favor to say 01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:19.920 I those against declare it C uny thank 01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:24.560 you so now I'll put the um 01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:26.399 amended motion the amended 01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:29.000 motion all those in favor say 01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:33.920 I those against declare Carr uny thank 01:12:34.680 --> 01:12:36.960 you item 01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:41.119 6.7 D May thank you LA mayor um LA mayor 01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:46.560 item 6.7 is a tender um T2 2022 906 for 01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:48.800 tree maintenance and urban Forest 01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:51.239 Services um the report asked Council to 01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:53.880 accept the tender offer of tender appe 01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:56.439 for the Northern Area and tender A for 01:12:56.520 --> 01:12:58.039 southern area of the tree maintenance 01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:00.840 and urban Forest Services tender for 01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:02.840 period of six years with the option of 01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:06.000 an extension of two terms of two years 01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:09.560 each and there is a relevant to memo um 01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:12.760 in in the um in in the papers and the um 01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:14.600 the memo provides further information 01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:16.680 about the percentage of apprentices and 01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:19.880 trainees uh employed under the contract 01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:22.000 the training provided and information 01:13:22.079 --> 01:13:25.039 about how rates of uh charges are 01:13:25.119 --> 01:13:28.199 adjusted annually um in reference to the 01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:30.880 CPI and wage increases lot mayor I'll 01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:32.000 move the 01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:34.880 recommendation so that's signed 01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:37.800 by Council 01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:41.319 Walling and Council Scott thanks Lord 01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:43.079 may I thank the staff for the additional 01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:45.840 information noting that there are two um 01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:47.840 trainees employed as part of the current 01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:50.640 contract but that that may not continue 01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:53.560 uh and also noting that um the the 01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:56.359 tenderer has um a right to come back and 01:13:56.439 --> 01:14:00.000 ask for annual um changes to the prices 01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:02.880 of the contract I also note the advice 01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:06.199 in the relevant to uh that uh it is 01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:08.840 proposed uh that the staff will be paid 01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:11.560 according to the award uh and yet there 01:14:11.640 --> 01:14:13.520 are critical shortages of skilled labor 01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:16.720 that exists within this industry Lord 01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:18.680 mayor um for all those reasons I don't 01:14:18.760 --> 01:14:20.680 support uh Outsourcing the tree 01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:22.399 maintenance of the city of Sydney's 01:14:22.479 --> 01:14:25.279 trees uh it is the case that we have an 01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:26.680 offer on the table from the state 01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:28.880 government to examine the viability of 01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:31.239 paying for trainees and Apprentice not 01:14:31.319 --> 01:14:33.039 just to this Council but to all councils 01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:35.159 in New South Wales and so what we are 01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:37.920 doing is sacrificing the opportunity to 01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:39.520 receive some government funding for 01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:42.159 these two positions in Outsourcing it 01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:45.199 where that won't be possible uh we also 01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:47.920 are um entering into a contract that has 01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.720 significant pay variability uh as the 01:14:50.800 --> 01:14:52.920 deputy Lord mayor has outlined uh that 01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:55.640 is able to be renewed a number of times 01:14:55.720 --> 01:14:57.279 this is a very significant long-term 01:14:57.359 --> 01:14:59.600 agreement sacrificing the ability of the 01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:01.760 council to bring this in in house to 01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:04.399 train our own people to accept a state 01:15:04.479 --> 01:15:06.399 government subsidy to do that and most 01:15:06.479 --> 01:15:08.760 importantly uh to generate an excellent 01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:11.119 outcome for our residents by ensuring 01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:13.880 that we had quality services it Remains 01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:15.640 the case in the city of Sydney at the 01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:18.640 moment Lord mayor that if we have a sign 01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:21.439 that is bent or graffitied we have to 01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:24.840 call two separate contract s to fix the 01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:28.039 graffiti and bend back the sign uh if we 01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:31.000 have to call a contractor to uh support 01:15:31.079 --> 01:15:33.439 our tree maintenance as well as well as 01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:36.000 all the outsourced waste uh and 01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:37.680 recycling that we do in this city of 01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:40.159 Sydney uh there are fewer and fewer 01:15:40.239 --> 01:15:42.680 services that this Council offers itself 01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:44.199 I personally find that very 01:15:44.279 --> 01:15:46.000 disappointing it's not a future for the 01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:49.199 city of Sydney that I want to see uh and 01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:50.560 it should not be the case that the 01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:52.399 council continues to Outsource these 01:15:52.479 --> 01:15:54.640 kinds of matters particularly in light 01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:56.039 of the offer from the new southw 01:15:56.119 --> 01:15:57.920 government to support and pay for 01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:00.840 apprentices and trainee ships in an area 01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:03.079 of skill shortages Lord mayor so I I 01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:06.239 continue to strongly oppose this item so 01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:09.119 just just um some background information 01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:11.760 um so the contracted Service delivery 01:16:11.840 --> 01:16:13.880 has been in place uh for the city's tree 01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:16.399 since 2008 as tree maintenance is a 01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:18.600 highrisk working at Heights around P 01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:21.760 line lines over roads using chain stores 01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:23.279 and and chippers it's critical the 01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:25.119 services are undertaken by qualified and 01:16:25.199 --> 01:16:27.239 experienced personnel with companies 01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:28.960 that integrate industry best practice 01:16:29.039 --> 01:16:31.039 into their daily operations it also 01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:32.640 requires a specialist equipment like a 01:16:32.720 --> 01:16:35.039 cherry cherry pickers effective safety 01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:36.439 management practices which are very 01:16:36.520 --> 01:16:38.439 important in high pedestrianized areas 01:16:38.520 --> 01:16:40.680 which uh we have and highly qualified 01:16:40.760 --> 01:16:43.000 arborus many other councils contract out 01:16:43.079 --> 01:16:44.680 Tree Management Services because it 01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:48.399 complex work the city of Melbourne um 01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:52.680 has a policy similar to ours um similar 01:16:52.760 --> 01:16:54.520 in term terms of capital city and scope 01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:58.399 of uh uh services and they contract out 01:16:58.479 --> 01:17:00.439 all of their tree maintenance services 01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:02.079 in Greater Sydney some of the other 01:17:02.159 --> 01:17:04.079 councils do this too uh all of their 01:17:04.159 --> 01:17:06.000 services including inner West Northern 01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:07.880 beaches Mossman statfield and Hunters 01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:11.600 Hill so um this service has um served us 01:17:11.680 --> 01:17:16.199 very very well um and safely um and um 01:17:16.279 --> 01:17:18.119 uh I 01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:21.920 um ask the CEO to perhaps 01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:25.000 comment 01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:28.640 um or should I ask Mr woodbr the um so 01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:32.399 Lord mayor what I all I would add is 01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:35.399 that firstly the government is looking 01:17:35.479 --> 01:17:37.159 the union has asked the government to 01:17:37.239 --> 01:17:40.000 look at supporting increased trainees 01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:42.279 and we really welcome that and we would 01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:43.960 certainly Embrace that here at the city 01:17:44.039 --> 01:17:46.319 of Sydney for our own Services however 01:17:46.399 --> 01:17:48.640 that is not funded yet so I we can't 01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:50.720 really create a service based on 01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:53.039 something that might happen and I I 01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:54.880 think it's really important it's really 01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:56.439 important that we support trainees and 01:17:56.520 --> 01:17:58.800 apprentices it really is but you can't 01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:00.880 run a service like this with 15% 01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:02.720 trainees or apprentices you would even 01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:04.920 if you had 15% trainees and apprentices 01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:06.079 you would still have you would have to 01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:08.039 have additional staff to support and 01:18:08.119 --> 01:18:10.359 manage those trainees and apprentices so 01:18:10.439 --> 01:18:12.680 actually even if the position even if we 01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:14.920 had 15% trainees and apprentices the 01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:17.079 city of Sydney would have to employ 01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:19.319 additional staff to supervise and train 01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:21.840 those people in many of the services and 01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:23.399 that's fine and that's something we 01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:26.359 would consider doing but we don't have 01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:28.680 those trainees and we do not have that 01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:31.319 funding and we really do need to move to 01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:33.199 have this service and at the moment this 01:18:33.279 --> 01:18:34.600 is the best model that we can put 01:18:34.680 --> 01:18:36.199 forward to you thank you Lord mayor 01:18:36.279 --> 01:18:38.479 thank 01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:43.640 you Council Wen yes I'd just like to 01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:46.479 support uh the matters that uh councelor 01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:50.399 Scott has raised when I think about uh 01:18:50.479 --> 01:18:52.000 the local businesses that have been 01:18:52.079 --> 01:18:54.600 created particularly wild wildflower 01:18:54.680 --> 01:18:57.159 that is actually employing young 01:18:57.239 --> 01:19:01.159 Aboriginal people to be trained in h 01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:04.479 cultural um and we look at so much parts 01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:07.359 of how we look at how we are engaging 01:19:07.439 --> 01:19:10.199 First Nations people to ensure that our 01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:13.520 practices are continually um are 01:19:13.600 --> 01:19:17.399 continuing to be revived and to be 01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:20.880 researched in our local areas I as I 01:19:20.960 --> 01:19:23.079 stated at during committee's meeting is 01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:25.319 that I'm concerned about how decisions 01:19:25.399 --> 01:19:29.079 are made um in the in the short term for 01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:31.079 long-term issues but when we actually 01:19:31.159 --> 01:19:33.239 arrive in the long term there doesn't 01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:36.039 seem to be the benefit if we're looking 01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:38.560 at some of these dying trades and yet we 01:19:38.640 --> 01:19:41.159 don't have anything internally 01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:44.840 Incorporated we continue to phase out uh 01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:47.319 what we are in terms of local government 01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:51.119 to actually create local um businesses 01:19:51.199 --> 01:19:54.119 in such a a corporate way and rather 01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:56.680 than support those local social 01:19:56.760 --> 01:19:59.000 Enterprises and actually not start to do 01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:00.920 that in partnership with local 01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:04.359 government when I think about uh my my 01:20:04.439 --> 01:20:08.119 uncle that worked here he was a a uh 01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:11.199 street sweeper for for many many decades 01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:16.199 and yet uh when he worked as a a a proud 01:20:16.279 --> 01:20:19.720 rer man and he came to work um he was 01:20:19.800 --> 01:20:22.359 very proud of the work that he could do 01:20:22.439 --> 01:20:25.840 um and have entry into local government 01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:28.479 and to his local community but what we 01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:30.439 are doing the more that we do when we 01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:34.239 phe out um these uh opportunities such 01:20:34.319 --> 01:20:36.079 as apprentices and the likes to be able 01:20:36.159 --> 01:20:38.279 to train people locally so they can live 01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:41.279 locally and make a difference to their 01:20:41.359 --> 01:20:43.359 community and be a part of that 01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:46.039 Community we when we continue to phase 01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:48.840 that out to other corporates it actually 01:20:48.920 --> 01:20:51.600 takes so much more away from us in what 01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:54.359 we mean about and neighborhood a family 01:20:54.439 --> 01:20:57.800 or a community as a 01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:01.119 whole do I have any other speakers um I 01:21:01.199 --> 01:21:03.279 just might ask the CEO to inform Council 01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:05.039 about the work we're doing with our 01:21:05.119 --> 01:21:07.560 rigal 01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:11.680 community um thank you Lord May and 01:21:11.760 --> 01:21:13.760 through you so I think there's two 01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:17.359 things that um I I hope I understood 01:21:17.439 --> 01:21:20.960 correctly and one is you know the the 01:21:21.039 --> 01:21:23.399 effort that we put into employing more a 01:21:23.479 --> 01:21:27.000 on T rate Islander people and we do have 01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:29.239 the reconciliation action plan and we do 01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:31.000 have our a on tourist rate iser 01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:33.239 Workforce strategy which was launched at 01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:35.760 redone Community Center and we are 01:21:35.840 --> 01:21:39.920 seeing the numbers increasing and um and 01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:42.520 even you know I attended with some staff 01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:44.560 we had two sessions at the national 01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:47.199 Center for indigenous Excellence where 01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:49.399 we encouraged people to come and apply 01:21:49.479 --> 01:21:51.800 for jobs and we took staff there to help 01:21:51.880 --> 01:21:54.159 them to uh encourage people to apply for 01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:56.119 jobs and help with applications and then 01:21:56.199 --> 01:21:58.119 we had two sessions at redund Community 01:21:58.199 --> 01:22:00.359 Center where we again did the same thing 01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:03.079 and I attended as well and our Workforce 01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:04.840 staff attended to help encourage people 01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:06.680 to apply for jobs so of course we want 01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:09.199 to see people from the ab Island 01:22:09.279 --> 01:22:11.520 community employed across the whole 01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:15.520 range of um jobs and the whole range of 01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:18.760 skills so that's very very important and 01:22:18.840 --> 01:22:21.279 we showed our commitment I think by 01:22:21.359 --> 01:22:24.079 launching that plan by employing a 01:22:24.159 --> 01:22:26.479 dedicated aage trate Islander Workforce 01:22:26.560 --> 01:22:29.479 specialist and we continue to do the 01:22:29.560 --> 01:22:32.199 very best we can there thank you thank 01:22:32.279 --> 01:22:34.439 you sorry and so then on supporting 01:22:34.520 --> 01:22:37.479 Aboriginal and tet Islander businesses 01:22:37.560 --> 01:22:39.600 so of course there are a number of em 01:22:39.680 --> 01:22:41.520 wonderful businesses and emerging 01:22:41.600 --> 01:22:43.760 businesses who do want to have the 01:22:43.840 --> 01:22:47.680 opportunity to compete for Council work 01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:52.039 and who um we we so and they want to 01:22:52.119 --> 01:22:54.239 stay Standalone businesses you know when 01:22:54.319 --> 01:22:56.079 I speak to them they really want to be 01:22:56.159 --> 01:22:58.520 Standalone businesses they don't want to 01:22:58.600 --> 01:23:00.760 just be a kind of Labor hire for the 01:23:00.840 --> 01:23:03.000 city of Sydney they want to build their 01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:05.079 own businesses and I'm not going to be 01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:07.439 able to go into the detail here but we 01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:11.000 are looking ex very much at how we can 01:23:11.079 --> 01:23:15.680 look at when we uh do seek contractors 01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:19.119 to provide services how we might package 01:23:19.199 --> 01:23:24.159 that up to make it uh to to open up the 01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:26.720 opportunities for businesses from 01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:29.720 different backgrounds to be able to 01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:32.640 confidently participate and compete and 01:23:32.720 --> 01:23:35.000 we do have one on in the pipeline right 01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:36.319 now which I can't really speak about 01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:37.800 because of course once we go into 01:23:37.880 --> 01:23:39.399 procurement process it's really 01:23:39.479 --> 01:23:41.479 important that that Pro the Integrity of 01:23:41.560 --> 01:23:43.640 that process is maintained so that 01:23:43.720 --> 01:23:46.399 nobody's disqualified um and so we are 01:23:46.479 --> 01:23:48.920 working on exactly one like that and we 01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:50.640 hope to work on many others thank you 01:23:50.720 --> 01:23:53.000 Lord mayor thank you CEO 01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:56.079 so where are we at 01:23:56.399 --> 01:23:59.439 to okay so I'll put the motion to you 01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:02.520 all those in favor say 01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:08.119 I those 01:24:08.199 --> 01:24:12.159 against Carrried AP from 01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:14.920 three item seven report of the 01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:17.479 environment 01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:21.279 committee Council Council 01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:24.359 whirling 01:24:26.880 --> 01:24:28.800 counselors staff and members of the 01:24:28.880 --> 01:24:30.199 public welcome to the meeting of the 01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:31.520 environment 01:24:31.600 --> 01:24:33.720 Committee in accordance with the city of 01:24:33.800 --> 01:24:35.560 Sydney's meeting practice this meeting 01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:37.880 is audio visually recorded and website 01:24:37.960 --> 01:24:40.560 live on the city of Sydney website for 01:24:40.640 --> 01:24:42.279 those listening to this stream from home 01:24:42.359 --> 01:24:43.960 I remind you that the statements and 01:24:44.039 --> 01:24:45.920 actions made during this meeting are 01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:47.880 those of the individual and not of the 01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:50.600 council sorry that's really for 01:24:50.680 --> 01:24:53.039 committee sorry that's for committee oh 01:24:53.119 --> 01:24:56.079 you don't need to do that for Council 01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:59.159 sorry 01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:04.159 sorry okay oh sorry read wrong okay this 01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:06.840 um so this item was passed unanimously 01:25:06.920 --> 01:25:08.640 at the committee meeting on November 6 01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:10.399 and is very much a good news story which 01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:13.359 I love the city knows that it must act 01:25:13.439 --> 01:25:14.840 urgently to address the climate 01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:17.600 emergency it's why in 2021 we brought 01:25:17.680 --> 01:25:20.760 forward the Net Zero Target from 2040 to 01:25:20.840 --> 01:25:24.039 2035 yes it's an ambitious emissions 01:25:24.119 --> 01:25:25.479 reduction Target but it's also 01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:27.560 achievable especially with the help from 01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:30.560 these wonderful environmental grants the 01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:32.319 total budget for environmental grants in 01:25:32.399 --> 01:25:35.840 23 24 is 400,000 the Green Building 01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:38.359 Grant specifically supports owners 01:25:38.439 --> 01:25:40.159 corporations and building owners in the 01:25:40.239 --> 01:25:42.560 residential accommodation sector to 01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:44.560 become more resourceful efficient and 01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:47.760 Achieve net zero emissions by 01:25:47.840 --> 01:25:50.720 20135 30 eligible applicants were 01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:53.000 received and we were asked to asked to 01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:57.439 approve 23 with an allocation of 241,000 01:25:57.520 --> 01:25:59.760 the remaining $ 01:25:59.840 --> 01:26:02.840 4,759 in savings will made available in 01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:05.399 the Innovation and ideas grant program 01:26:05.479 --> 01:26:08.319 currently being considered by Council 01:26:08.399 --> 01:26:11.079 Lord mayor I would like to move the 01:26:11.159 --> 01:26:15.359 recommendations for item 7.3 yeah 01:26:15.439 --> 01:26:18.760 second Lord 01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:21.720 mayor so do I have any other speakers 01:26:21.800 --> 01:26:24.319 sorry 01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:26.560 so I I'll move the I'll put the 01:26:26.640 --> 01:26:29.560 recommendation to you all those in favor 01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:32.199 say I those against declare Cod another 01:26:32.279 --> 01:26:35.439 seat thank you item eight report of the 01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:38.439 uh housing for all committee Council 01:26:38.520 --> 01:26:41.800 El thank you Lord mayor um we had one 01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:43.640 substantive item on the housing for all 01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:46.239 committee at committees two weeks ago we 01:26:46.319 --> 01:26:48.199 had um the confirmation of minutes at 01:26:48.279 --> 01:26:50.439 which is at 8.1 the statement of ethical 01:26:50.520 --> 01:26:51.880 obligations and disclosive interest and 01:26:51.960 --> 01:26:53.880 our substantial item which was supported 01:26:53.960 --> 01:26:55.960 unanimously was amending a Grant 01:26:56.039 --> 01:26:58.920 application from Wesley for a exciting 01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:01.079 new affordable housing development um 01:27:01.159 --> 01:27:03.239 that the city has uh contributed $3 01:27:03.319 --> 01:27:06.159 million from its affordable housing fund 01:27:06.239 --> 01:27:08.199 um we are the city had already made this 01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:10.399 decision in 2020 and but because there 01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:12.920 are some variations to the um the 01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:14.680 proposal we need to reaffirm that that 01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:16.319 is our decision which it was passed 01:27:16.399 --> 01:27:18.560 unanimously a couple of weeks ago at 01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:22.119 committees um I'll move that in globo uh 01:27:22.199 --> 01:27:23.600 all three items are the confirmation of 01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:25.319 the minutes the statement of ethical 01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:26.960 obligations and disclosure of interest 01:27:27.039 --> 01:27:29.039 and the that we move the grants and 01:27:29.119 --> 01:27:31.960 sponsorship substantive item at 8.3 01:27:32.039 --> 01:27:33.439 that's a procedural motion do I need to 01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:36.279 move that no don't I can just move 8.3 01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:39.920 thank you moving the three in globo just 01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:43.600 well I'm happy to second that great um 01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:44.960 Erin's shaking her head like we don't 01:27:45.039 --> 01:27:47.600 need to do that administrative process 01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:49.359 you're m in global and you're speaking 01:27:49.439 --> 01:27:52.640 to items yes so just briefly to confirm 01:27:52.720 --> 01:27:55.680 um item three which is the grant um the 01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:57.079 decision that Council was asked to make 01:27:57.159 --> 01:27:59.920 and supported unanimously was that um 01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:02.119 the grant will develop 56 new rooms for 01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:04.079 the for purposes of affordable housing 01:28:04.159 --> 01:28:07.359 at 274 to 276 G Point Road the $3 01:28:07.439 --> 01:28:09.560 million Grant through our affordable and 01:28:09.640 --> 01:28:11.840 diverse housing fund to Wesley Mission 01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:14.039 very excitingly um 01:28:14.119 --> 01:28:16.279 they've one of the exciting things about 01:28:16.359 --> 01:28:17.840 the proposal being delayed a couple of 01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:19.520 years is that it could 01:28:19.600 --> 01:28:22.279 update can you move more towards yeah 01:28:22.359 --> 01:28:24.600 sorry um I hate 01:28:24.680 --> 01:28:28.279 microphones sorry yeah um okay I'll wrap 01:28:28.359 --> 01:28:30.760 it up um not that the amount the grant 01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:33.279 amount is incl inclusive of GST if we 01:28:33.359 --> 01:28:34.840 pass this grant the plan is for 01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:36.960 construction to start next year and for 01:28:37.039 --> 01:28:40.039 the building to be open by August 01:28:40.119 --> 01:28:44.239 2025 thank you great great project so 01:28:44.319 --> 01:28:45.560 I'll put it to you all those in favor 01:28:45.640 --> 01:28:48.479 say I those against declare a Cod uny 01:28:48.560 --> 01:28:50.119 thank you Council 01:28:50.199 --> 01:28:52.119 ellore item nine report of of the 01:28:52.199 --> 01:28:54.600 cultural and creative committee um I 01:28:54.680 --> 01:28:56.279 actually it's an hour and a half 90 01:28:56.359 --> 01:28:59.319 minutes I might just move an um an 01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:01.279 adjournment for 15 01:29:01.359 --> 01:29:03.319 minutes and that's seconded by Council 01:29:03.399 --> 01:29:04.800 Ganon I'll put that to you all those in 01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:06.680 favor say I those against declare it 01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:11.000 Carrried so back here at qu to 7 01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:13.760 please report of the cultural and 01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:16.720 creative committee Council 01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:19.680 G thank you Lord mayor uh at the last 01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:20.840 meeting of the culture and creative 01:29:20.920 --> 01:29:22.720 committee we considered one item grants 01:29:22.800 --> 01:29:24.800 and sponsor grants and sponsorship 01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:26.520 cultural grants item one was 01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:28.159 confirmation of minutes item two was 01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:30.560 disclosures of Interest item three was 01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:32.600 Grant and sponsorship uh now the city 01:29:32.680 --> 01:29:34.279 advertised two tiers of festival and 01:29:34.359 --> 01:29:37.640 event sponsorship one is for the was for 01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:39.239 the festival and events the other was 01:29:39.319 --> 01:29:42.359 for major Festival events a total of 135 01:29:42.439 --> 01:29:44.159 eligible applications were received 01:29:44.239 --> 01:29:45.399 which shows just how important these 01:29:45.479 --> 01:29:47.960 sponsorship grants are uh the report 01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:50.840 recommends 45 grants to a total value of 01:29:50.920 --> 01:29:52.359 1.337 01:29:52.439 --> 01:29:55.920 uh million in cash and 01:30:20.840 --> 01:30:23.319 757,50 at the pit Street Training Center 01:30:23.399 --> 01:30:25.399 as part of the connect City workshop and 01:30:25.479 --> 01:30:27.239 again that was part uh that session was 01:30:27.319 --> 01:30:29.119 held for abinal and T straight Islander 01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:31.319 organizations and people now connect 01:30:31.399 --> 01:30:34.119 Sydney uh which is available to all uh 01:30:34.199 --> 01:30:35.640 Community groups aims to build the 01:30:35.720 --> 01:30:37.600 capacity of community and not for-profit 01:30:37.680 --> 01:30:40.439 organizations through the provision of 01:30:40.520 --> 01:30:42.640 uh free grant writing skills and 01:30:42.720 --> 01:30:45.159 governance training uh and I would 01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:47.079 strongly encourage members of the public 01:30:47.159 --> 01:30:50.000 looking to apply uh for Grants to engage 01:30:50.079 --> 01:30:51.319 with this valuable service to ensure 01:30:51.399 --> 01:30:54.039 that ation has the best possible chance 01:30:54.119 --> 01:30:56.319 of success uh now it's always great to 01:30:56.399 --> 01:30:58.079 see such high levels of 01:30:58.159 --> 01:31:01.880 Engagement uh but as you know we'd love 01:31:01.960 --> 01:31:03.840 to find all of these applications as you 01:31:03.920 --> 01:31:06.000 know Lord mayor um of which a total of 01:31:06.079 --> 01:31:07.520 $6.8 01:31:07.600 --> 01:31:09.920 million uh was requested for this round 01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:11.720 alone but we need to be fiscally 01:31:11.800 --> 01:31:13.960 responsible ensuring that our grant Pro 01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:16.079 program maintains its integrity and 01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:18.560 viability in the long term but it was 01:31:18.640 --> 01:31:20.439 great to be able to support some of the 01:31:20.520 --> 01:31:22.119 larger events that have become St of 01:31:22.199 --> 01:31:24.399 Sydney's cultur circuit including uh 01:31:24.479 --> 01:31:26.439 Sydney film festival vogs fashion night 01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:28.640 out and of course Sydney 01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:31.560 Festival uh now Lord may as uh there was 01:31:31.640 --> 01:31:32.640 quite a bit of a 01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:35.479 discussion a fortnite ago um I've got an 01:31:35.560 --> 01:31:38.479 alternative motion uh which is to add 01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:39.840 which has been past circulated I believe 01:31:39.920 --> 01:31:42.399 everyone has it part G which is that the 01:31:42.479 --> 01:31:44.319 chief executive officer be asked to 01:31:44.399 --> 01:31:46.039 conduct a counselor Workshop that 01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:47.760 provides an overview of the grants 01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:50.439 application and assessment process and 01:31:50.520 --> 01:31:51.880 outlines the C the current current 01:31:51.960 --> 01:31:54.279 grants programs funding priorities 01:31:54.359 --> 01:31:56.600 relationships to the city uh of City 01:31:56.680 --> 01:31:58.800 strategic plan and 01:31:58.880 --> 01:32:02.479 priorities and also uh a review of the 01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:04.439 Grant and sponsorship policy as part of 01:32:04.520 --> 01:32:06.880 the midterm policy review process taking 01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:09.560 into account feedback from counselors uh 01:32:09.640 --> 01:32:11.800 and any potential systematic barriers 01:32:11.880 --> 01:32:15.479 and biases in the application uh uh and 01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:18.520 assessment process thank you counc and 01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:22.560 is that seconded by deput May 01:32:22.640 --> 01:32:24.000 um uh I'd like to move that for the 01:32:24.079 --> 01:32:28.000 purpose of discussion 01:32:28.079 --> 01:32:31.079 yes 01:32:32.039 --> 01:32:34.840 so so I think that's a very worthwhile 01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:37.159 suggestion course counselors you know 01:32:37.239 --> 01:32:39.439 would like to give feedback on on the 01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:42.399 grants and and see what else we can do 01:32:42.479 --> 01:32:45.000 with that bucket of money so it's really 01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:47.239 good so thank you for that so I'll put 01:32:47.319 --> 01:32:49.680 that um so I'm dealing with an amended 01:32:49.760 --> 01:32:52.439 um yeah 01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:54.039 I'm dealing with an alternative well I'm 01:32:54.119 --> 01:32:55.279 dealing with the motion that's before us 01:32:55.359 --> 01:32:56.720 aren't I so I'll put the motion to you 01:32:56.800 --> 01:32:59.000 all those in favor say I those against 01:32:59.079 --> 01:33:01.760 declare it C thank you Council 01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:08.880 genon item 10 report of the uh sorry 01:33:08.960 --> 01:33:12.279 resilient communities and economy 01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:17.840 committee Council Davis thank you Lord 01:33:18.199 --> 01:33:20.920 May good evening everyone and I'll be 01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:23.039 introducing item 10 on the resilient 01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:25.880 community and economy Committee of this 01:33:25.960 --> 01:33:27.840 council meeting the minutes of the 01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:29.560 resilient communities and economy 01:33:29.640 --> 01:33:32.960 committee meeting uh held on the 6th of 01:33:33.039 --> 01:33:36.600 November uh to be confirmed items 01:33:36.680 --> 01:33:40.640 10.1 confirmation of minutes and item 01:33:40.720 --> 01:33:43.720 10.2 are there any disclosures of 01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:46.640 Interest counselors I have declared 01:33:46.720 --> 01:33:50.239 already um um are you moving in what 01:33:50.319 --> 01:33:52.159 what are you moving 01:33:52.239 --> 01:33:55.000 you Ming in globo or no I can't I've 01:33:55.079 --> 01:33:56.000 right so you're moving first of all 01:33:56.079 --> 01:33:57.560 you're moving confirmation of minutes 01:33:57.640 --> 01:33:58.880 well I'll have to put that to the 01:33:58.960 --> 01:34:01.199 council so got a second for the 01:34:01.279 --> 01:34:03.479 confirmation of minutes councilor Chan 01:34:03.560 --> 01:34:04.840 I'll put that to you all those in favor 01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:07.279 say I those 01:34:07.359 --> 01:34:09.359 against I'll put that again because not 01:34:09.439 --> 01:34:10.720 everyone voted we're voting on the 01:34:10.800 --> 01:34:11.920 confirmation of the minutes from the 01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:13.760 committee put that too all those in 01:34:13.840 --> 01:34:16.720 favor say I those against declare it Cod 01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:18.720 unanimously thank you now the next one 01:34:18.800 --> 01:34:20.279 is the statement of ethical obligations 01:34:20.359 --> 01:34:23.479 discloses of interest in you remove that 01:34:23.560 --> 01:34:24.520 but we don't need to vote on that 01:34:24.600 --> 01:34:25.760 because I did that at the beginning of 01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:29.439 the meeting that's right so we'll go to 01:34:32.840 --> 01:34:35.840 10.3 I'll be stepping out and not voting 01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:39.319 um on item 10.4 and 10.5 grants and 01:34:39.399 --> 01:34:41.079 sponsorship Aboriginal onar straight 01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:43.119 Islander collaboration fund and 01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:46.199 Innovation grants and ideas um I have 01:34:46.279 --> 01:34:50.399 declared my uh significant 01:34:50.479 --> 01:34:52.399 um 01:34:52.479 --> 01:34:57.239 okay sorry I'm um we'll go back to 10.3 01:34:57.319 --> 01:34:58.159 yes 01:34:58.239 --> 01:35:00.680 10.3 um I'd like to propose that the 01:35:00.760 --> 01:35:02.920 council move the following motion item 01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:06.279 10.3 which I have circulated the motion 01:35:06.359 --> 01:35:09.119 requests uh for the Lord mayor to ask 01:35:09.199 --> 01:35:11.079 the minister for local government to 01:35:11.159 --> 01:35:14.199 review the effectiveness of alcohol free 01:35:14.279 --> 01:35:17.199 zones in preventing antisocial behavior 01:35:17.279 --> 01:35:19.479 and their impact on Aboriginal and T 01:35:19.560 --> 01:35:22.359 State Islander peoples social housing 01:35:22.439 --> 01:35:25.000 residents and people experiencing 01:35:25.079 --> 01:35:27.880 homelessness this recommendation also 01:35:27.960 --> 01:35:30.359 asks the CEO to continue to work with 01:35:30.439 --> 01:35:33.479 communities and service providers to 01:35:33.560 --> 01:35:37.560 comprehensively co-design person uh 01:35:37.640 --> 01:35:40.520 codon person centered approaches to the 01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:43.560 alcohol related harm importantly it is 01:35:43.640 --> 01:35:46.479 also asked that the CEO comprehensively 01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:49.159 review all existing alcohol free zones 01:35:49.239 --> 01:35:52.039 and alcohol prohibited areas this review 01:35:52.119 --> 01:35:55.399 is to take place uh in Broad 01:35:55.479 --> 01:35:57.760 consultation with local residents 01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:00.279 communities and social housing Estates 01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:02.800 neighboring advisory boards community 01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:05.560 services including Aboriginal Community 01:36:05.640 --> 01:36:08.600 controlled organizations organizations 01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:10.199 representing torist State Islander 01:36:10.279 --> 01:36:12.119 communities and culturally and 01:36:12.199 --> 01:36:15.079 linguistically diverse communities uh 01:36:15.159 --> 01:36:17.279 business and relevant New South Wales 01:36:17.359 --> 01:36:20.079 government agencies the aim of this 01:36:20.159 --> 01:36:22.399 review is to deter DET which specific 01:36:22.479 --> 01:36:24.560 restrictions have broad community 01:36:24.640 --> 01:36:27.199 support and should be retained and which 01:36:27.279 --> 01:36:30.359 can be lifted and will be reported back 01:36:30.439 --> 01:36:33.840 to council with revised recommendations 01:36:33.920 --> 01:36:36.520 the report also recommends that the 01:36:36.600 --> 01:36:38.560 council note that the outcomes of the 01:36:38.640 --> 01:36:41.319 public exhibition and approve the 01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:43.960 establishment of alcohol free zones and 01:36:44.039 --> 01:36:47.479 alcohol prohibited areas for a 9-month 01:36:47.560 --> 01:36:51.239 period uh timed areas and temporary 01:36:51.319 --> 01:36:54.119 alcohol free zones as outlined in the 01:36:54.199 --> 01:36:56.640 attachment a except for the proposed 01:36:56.720 --> 01:37:00.199 alcohol free zones listed in point e of 01:37:00.279 --> 01:37:02.760 the motion for the reasons outlined in 01:37:02.840 --> 01:37:05.239 this report as part of the review 01:37:05.319 --> 01:37:07.720 Council can relook at all alcohol-free 01:37:07.800 --> 01:37:10.840 zones over the extended period and 01:37:10.920 --> 01:37:13.680 assess the evidence and the reasons why 01:37:13.760 --> 01:37:15.640 we are supporting the existing 01:37:15.720 --> 01:37:19.000 alcohol-free zones valid concerns about 01:37:19.079 --> 01:37:21.840 usage of these zones have been raised by 01:37:21.920 --> 01:37:24.399 counselors and the community and the 01:37:24.479 --> 01:37:26.920 same time not approving the extensions 01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:29.840 of the existing restrictions now without 01:37:29.920 --> 01:37:31.640 having consulted the community about 01:37:31.720 --> 01:37:34.520 removing existing restrictions would 01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:38.640 catch many offu particularly as uh as 01:37:38.720 --> 01:37:40.880 there are also community members who 01:37:40.960 --> 01:37:43.520 have asked for alcohol-free zones to be 01:37:43.600 --> 01:37:47.079 put in place the purpose the purpose 01:37:47.159 --> 01:37:50.479 review uh will give us the opportunity 01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:51.880 to determine 01:37:51.960 --> 01:37:55.119 these zones are beneficial as well as 01:37:55.199 --> 01:37:57.439 where restrictions could be lifted and 01:37:57.520 --> 01:38:00.399 give our community the chance uh to have 01:38:00.479 --> 01:38:04.439 their say uh before any changes are made 01:38:04.520 --> 01:38:07.680 Lord Mara put this to the vote so 01:38:07.760 --> 01:38:11.079 seconded by Council illmore thank you 01:38:11.159 --> 01:38:14.159 Council Council illmore and then Council 01:38:14.239 --> 01:38:16.399 Jarett thank you Lord mayor and uh thank 01:38:16.479 --> 01:38:18.199 you councelor Davis um for the 01:38:18.279 --> 01:38:20.600 opportunity to discuss substantial 01:38:20.680 --> 01:38:22.680 amendments to what we originally had 01:38:22.760 --> 01:38:24.520 before us I think this is a really 01:38:24.600 --> 01:38:26.199 really good outcome and I will project 01:38:26.279 --> 01:38:27.840 better and stand closer to the 01:38:27.920 --> 01:38:31.079 microphone um so just for clarity 01:38:31.159 --> 01:38:32.520 because I know there a number of people 01:38:32.600 --> 01:38:34.119 contacted me who were listening at home 01:38:34.199 --> 01:38:35.560 and who made submissions that I just 01:38:35.640 --> 01:38:37.079 want to reference as well and say thank 01:38:37.159 --> 01:38:40.199 you regarding um instead of a decision 01:38:40.279 --> 01:38:42.039 to renew the alcohol free zones we 01:38:42.119 --> 01:38:43.720 already have in the city which is very 01:38:43.800 --> 01:38:46.159 many numbering more than 200 this 01:38:46.239 --> 01:38:47.800 decision would have us extending it for 01:38:47.880 --> 01:38:49.600 a 9month period so we could have a 01:38:49.680 --> 01:38:51.760 review and consider the impact 01:38:51.840 --> 01:38:53.800 we had a request from some residents but 01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:55.640 primarily from police to have a whole 01:38:55.720 --> 01:38:57.239 new range of alcohol free zones for 01:38:57.319 --> 01:38:59.560 another four years this does not have us 01:38:59.640 --> 01:39:00.920 establishing those it has us 01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:03.319 establishing some for the 9month period 01:39:03.399 --> 01:39:06.920 um in relation to sort of New Year's Eve 01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:08.760 um crowd control and things like that 01:39:08.840 --> 01:39:11.520 but not an the whole list that was 01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:14.119 proposed particularly the new um spaces 01:39:14.199 --> 01:39:15.600 that are opposite or including or in 01:39:15.680 --> 01:39:18.319 front of public housing Estates and I 01:39:18.399 --> 01:39:19.680 think it's incredibly positive that the 01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:20.800 Lord mayor is going to write to the 01:39:20.880 --> 01:39:22.079 state government asking for a 01:39:22.159 --> 01:39:25.319 reevaluation of what are I think a very 01:39:25.399 --> 01:39:30.279 not needed and um harmful police power 01:39:30.359 --> 01:39:32.319 so I wanted to read just briefly be um 01:39:32.399 --> 01:39:33.640 because i' been asked to but also 01:39:33.720 --> 01:39:34.880 because there were very important 01:39:34.960 --> 01:39:36.520 submissions to help us make our decision 01:39:36.600 --> 01:39:37.960 tonight from the Aboriginal legal 01:39:38.039 --> 01:39:39.319 service and from the homelessness 01:39:39.399 --> 01:39:41.600 person's legal service who are contacted 01:39:41.680 --> 01:39:43.560 and provided some feedback cautioning 01:39:43.640 --> 01:39:45.880 Council to do what it is doing tonight 01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:48.359 which is to undertake a proper review 01:39:48.439 --> 01:39:51.520 before we extend these restrictions 01:39:51.600 --> 01:39:53.439 um police already have a lot of powers 01:39:53.520 --> 01:39:55.359 to move anyone along who is um 01:39:55.439 --> 01:39:57.680 antisocial or is causing harm or is 01:39:57.760 --> 01:39:59.680 threatening they have those Powers they 01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:01.119 have very strong move on Powers some 01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:03.079 would argue I myself included to strong 01:40:03.159 --> 01:40:05.600 move on Powers alcohol free zones give 01:40:05.680 --> 01:40:07.439 even more powers for police to tip out 01:40:07.520 --> 01:40:09.239 alcohol or move people along or find 01:40:09.319 --> 01:40:10.800 them if they don't do that more than 01:40:10.880 --> 01:40:13.119 $2,000 even if they're causing no harm 01:40:13.199 --> 01:40:15.880 to anybody and the feedback that we got 01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:18.600 um as we know historically as well that 01:40:18.680 --> 01:40:20.479 these rules tend to impact Aboriginal 01:40:20.560 --> 01:40:21.920 people people on the streets young 01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:23.359 people and people experiencing 01:40:23.439 --> 01:40:25.680 homelessness one story I wanted to share 01:40:25.760 --> 01:40:27.399 that the Aboriginal legal service shared 01:40:27.479 --> 01:40:29.239 with us as an example of how these rules 01:40:29.319 --> 01:40:31.960 work in practice is for Alex not the 01:40:32.039 --> 01:40:33.960 real name one of their clients Alex is a 01:40:34.039 --> 01:40:36.119 resident of the city of Sydney area Alex 01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:39.239 was in a AFR Zed alcohol-free Zone in 01:40:39.319 --> 01:40:41.760 watero alone and drinking from a bottle 01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:43.880 in a brown paper bag the police stopped 01:40:43.960 --> 01:40:45.960 and approached her a verbal altercation 01:40:46.039 --> 01:40:48.000 ensued during which Alex made it clear 01:40:48.079 --> 01:40:49.239 that she felt the police were 01:40:49.319 --> 01:40:50.920 interfering with her liberties they 01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:52.439 issued her a move on order because of 01:40:52.520 --> 01:40:53.640 her language and because she was 01:40:53.720 --> 01:40:55.960 drinking she failed to comply so they 01:40:56.039 --> 01:40:58.079 arrested her charged her for resist 01:40:58.159 --> 01:41:00.680 arrest assault police offensive language 01:41:00.760 --> 01:41:02.680 known as as the trifecta by anyone who's 01:41:02.760 --> 01:41:04.920 worked in the original legal service as 01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:06.720 well as failing to comply with a move on 01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:09.039 Direction she defended the action in 01:41:09.119 --> 01:41:11.479 court the police conceded that they did 01:41:11.560 --> 01:41:13.119 not have the power to issue her with a 01:41:13.199 --> 01:41:14.920 move on direction for drinking in the AF 01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:17.039 said they dropped the charges all 01:41:17.119 --> 01:41:18.680 charges sorry were dismissed at court 01:41:18.760 --> 01:41:21.159 the police didn't drop them however the 01:41:21.239 --> 01:41:23.479 process and the trauma um experienced by 01:41:23.560 --> 01:41:25.439 that client was just one of the examples 01:41:25.520 --> 01:41:27.840 that um the ALS shared with us to help 01:41:27.920 --> 01:41:30.199 us understand why their recommendation 01:41:30.279 --> 01:41:32.760 is that we do this review because there 01:41:32.840 --> 01:41:34.159 has been a disproportionate impact in 01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:35.600 how these laws tend to be used towards 01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:38.439 Aboriginal people um and they tend to 01:41:38.520 --> 01:41:40.319 who are already subject to punitive 01:41:40.399 --> 01:41:41.960 proactive policing practices on the 01:41:42.039 --> 01:41:44.520 streets generally and that over 01:41:44.600 --> 01:41:46.359 represent overp policing of Aboriginal 01:41:46.439 --> 01:41:48.479 communities is one of the key things 01:41:48.560 --> 01:41:50.439 that is um contributing to the over 01:41:50.520 --> 01:41:51.880 repesent representation of Aboriginal 01:41:51.960 --> 01:41:54.600 tourist island people in custody this 01:41:54.680 --> 01:41:56.600 review will give us an opportunity to 01:41:56.680 --> 01:41:58.239 understand where we need these for 01:41:58.319 --> 01:41:59.800 residents and there may be some cases 01:41:59.880 --> 01:42:01.880 where we do need them and where the laws 01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:04.319 are being unfortunately abused or are 01:42:04.399 --> 01:42:06.159 having a negative effect on our impact 01:42:06.239 --> 01:42:08.720 on our communities alcohol like other 01:42:08.800 --> 01:42:10.760 drugs needs to be treated like a healthy 01:42:10.840 --> 01:42:13.199 shoe and more laws don't work to help 01:42:13.279 --> 01:42:15.279 people who um are drinking in the 01:42:15.359 --> 01:42:16.560 streets and they don't help to keep us 01:42:16.640 --> 01:42:18.399 safe they might make police feel like 01:42:18.479 --> 01:42:19.720 they have more Powers but they've all 01:42:19.800 --> 01:42:21.279 got already got plenty of powers to do 01:42:21.359 --> 01:42:23.119 what they need the final thing I wanted 01:42:23.199 --> 01:42:25.479 to share was from the um public interest 01:42:25.560 --> 01:42:27.840 advocacy Center's Aboriginal sorry 01:42:27.920 --> 01:42:29.720 homelessness person's Legal Center and I 01:42:29.800 --> 01:42:31.319 apologize these were quite last minute 01:42:31.399 --> 01:42:32.960 because we were making the decision but 01:42:33.039 --> 01:42:36.119 they wanted to provide some feedback um 01:42:36.199 --> 01:42:38.199 that in their experience that these 01:42:38.279 --> 01:42:40.079 zones create unnecessary interactions 01:42:40.159 --> 01:42:42.760 with police um for people as the 01:42:42.840 --> 01:42:44.399 interactions also for people who are 01:42:44.479 --> 01:42:46.920 homeless um have people um not following 01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:48.920 move on orders they can become stop and 01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:50.880 Searchers they have occasions where 01:42:50.960 --> 01:42:52.279 people have reported being stripped to 01:42:52.359 --> 01:42:54.560 their underwear in public in response to 01:42:54.640 --> 01:42:56.199 um not agreeing to follow move on orders 01:42:56.279 --> 01:42:59.520 in afz zones these interactions can qu 01:42:59.600 --> 01:43:02.680 quickly escalate to criminal charges so 01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:04.520 anyway I think the evidence is there for 01:43:04.600 --> 01:43:06.119 us I'm very thankful that the council is 01:43:06.199 --> 01:43:07.920 responding to it if we do this we will 01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:09.600 be one of the few councils I think in 01:43:09.680 --> 01:43:11.520 this state that is standing up and 01:43:11.600 --> 01:43:13.199 questioning whether these are the sorts 01:43:13.279 --> 01:43:15.239 of laws we still want to police alcohol 01:43:15.319 --> 01:43:16.920 on our streets whether or not they're 01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:18.720 consistent with our rules that we want 01:43:18.800 --> 01:43:20.720 more on street daming and celebration 01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:22.640 and people to feel safe we'll get a 01:43:22.720 --> 01:43:24.439 chance to do that and by bringing it 01:43:24.520 --> 01:43:26.520 back in nine months um it means that we 01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:28.079 will make that decision as the elected 01:43:28.159 --> 01:43:29.920 Council it won't be the next elected 01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:31.560 Council will be us this term to hear 01:43:31.640 --> 01:43:32.840 those stories and decide what we're 01:43:32.920 --> 01:43:34.920 going to do and thank you again to the 01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:36.800 staff for or and and the Lord mayor's 01:43:36.880 --> 01:43:38.319 team for bringing forward this very 01:43:38.399 --> 01:43:40.159 different motion than what we originally 01:43:40.239 --> 01:43:43.000 had on the papers thank you Council well 01:43:43.079 --> 01:43:44.960 could you um circulate that material 01:43:45.039 --> 01:43:46.880 that you have from those various 01:43:46.960 --> 01:43:48.920 organizations I think it'd be helpful 01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:51.319 for thank you Lord mayor I did circulate 01:43:51.399 --> 01:43:52.960 them um but it was I got them very late 01:43:53.039 --> 01:43:55.000 last Sunday night but I'm very happy to 01:43:55.079 --> 01:43:57.199 recirculate um that information cuz it 01:43:57.279 --> 01:43:59.800 was intended for all the counil do 01:43:59.880 --> 01:44:02.880 that okay Council Jared uh thank you 01:44:02.960 --> 01:44:06.880 Lord mayor i' more got a query of um um 01:44:06.960 --> 01:44:09.439 Kiren Moran do we actually have the 01:44:09.520 --> 01:44:13.520 ability to uh put forward a change in 01:44:13.600 --> 01:44:15.319 the time period that we're approving 01:44:15.399 --> 01:44:17.800 this for um it has to be approved by the 01:44:17.880 --> 01:44:19.960 15th of December this year otherwise 01:44:20.039 --> 01:44:23.560 there are no alcohol free zones in the 01:44:23.640 --> 01:44:26.479 city of Sydney I understand I wouldn't 01:44:26.560 --> 01:44:29.279 want us to be making deferment motions 01:44:29.359 --> 01:44:30.920 here effectively if we don't have the 01:44:31.000 --> 01:44:33.520 authority and we find that on the 16th 01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:36.000 of December we don't have any of these 01:44:36.079 --> 01:44:38.600 zones so I just like a some sort of 01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:40.199 confirmation that we have the authority 01:44:40.279 --> 01:44:42.960 to do this the CE you through you Lord 01:44:43.039 --> 01:44:44.800 what we're being asked to do is to 01:44:44.880 --> 01:44:48.199 extend them for 9 months and we can do 01:44:48.279 --> 01:44:50.039 and we can extend alcohol free zones for 01:44:50.119 --> 01:44:52.880 up to 4 years that's in the legisl up to 01:44:52.960 --> 01:44:54.319 so what we're doing here what we're 01:44:54.399 --> 01:44:56.079 being asked to do Lord mayor pardon me 01:44:56.159 --> 01:44:58.880 is to um to extend them for 9 months 01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:01.079 we'll just change the date on the each 01:45:01.159 --> 01:45:03.800 sign just with a sticker so it gives so 01:45:03.880 --> 01:45:07.680 then this the sign is um valid and then 01:45:07.760 --> 01:45:10.159 before that time expires we need to come 01:45:10.239 --> 01:45:12.000 back to council with the new 01:45:12.079 --> 01:45:14.039 recommendations based on the 01:45:14.119 --> 01:45:15.880 consultation and also discussions with 01:45:15.960 --> 01:45:19.640 the state government about the um 01:45:19.720 --> 01:45:21.960 whether this is really the best process 01:45:22.039 --> 01:45:24.159 for this I mean I think we I think 01:45:24.239 --> 01:45:26.279 there's two parts to this is one is is 01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:27.880 this really the best way to do it which 01:45:27.960 --> 01:45:29.680 is a matter that the Lord May will take 01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:32.439 up to the government and as staff we 01:45:32.520 --> 01:45:34.760 will talk to the community about their 01:45:34.840 --> 01:45:37.520 um their concerns appetite and or 01:45:37.600 --> 01:45:40.279 support for these uh so that if we are 01:45:40.359 --> 01:45:42.920 going to put them up again uh you've got 01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:44.920 more information thank you Lord mayor 01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:46.800 thank you very much I think councilors 01:45:46.880 --> 01:45:48.359 believe they need more information 01:45:48.439 --> 01:45:49.399 Council 01:45:49.479 --> 01:45:51.720 whirling 01:45:51.800 --> 01:45:53.439 uh thank you Lord mayor I'd like to 01:45:53.520 --> 01:45:55.399 speak in support of the motion proposed 01:45:55.479 --> 01:45:58.000 by councilor Davis this system of 01:45:58.079 --> 01:46:00.560 blanket alcohol bans in public public 01:46:00.640 --> 01:46:02.600 seems to disproportionately impact 01:46:02.680 --> 01:46:04.840 people with low from lower incomes 01:46:04.920 --> 01:46:06.840 people living in social housing our 01:46:06.920 --> 01:46:09.479 first Nations and T straight Islander 01:46:09.560 --> 01:46:12.279 communities this isn't simply a police 01:46:12.359 --> 01:46:14.680 or public safety issue this seems more 01:46:14.760 --> 01:46:17.920 to me like an Us and Them issue while 01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:20.000 wealthy residents can choose to drink at 01:46:20.079 --> 01:46:20.880 a bar 01:46:20.960 --> 01:46:22.319 or as we've experienced since the 01:46:22.399 --> 01:46:24.199 pandemic in one of our extensive outdoor 01:46:24.279 --> 01:46:26.720 dining areas those who can't afford it 01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:29.039 have to stay home and buy directly from 01:46:29.119 --> 01:46:31.159 the supermarket or the bottle 01:46:31.239 --> 01:46:33.560 shop and what if drinking at home is not 01:46:33.640 --> 01:46:36.560 an option maybe it's just too small 01:46:36.640 --> 01:46:38.319 you're at risk or simply you want to 01:46:38.399 --> 01:46:39.880 have some sunshine and to drink with 01:46:39.960 --> 01:46:41.720 friends and socialize 01:46:41.800 --> 01:46:44.439 outside in many cases here more people 01:46:44.520 --> 01:46:46.199 won't be allowed to sit in their local 01:46:46.279 --> 01:46:48.880 pocket park or a street bench to have a 01:46:48.960 --> 01:46:51.399 quiet drink they'll be asked to empty 01:46:51.479 --> 01:46:53.279 their bottle cost they shouldn't have to 01:46:53.359 --> 01:46:55.800 incur and be moved along 01:46:55.880 --> 01:46:58.279 again if we put restrictions on more and 01:46:58.359 --> 01:47:00.000 more streets are we just kicking the 01:47:00.079 --> 01:47:01.840 perceived problem down the 01:47:01.920 --> 01:47:04.359 road are we causing further divide in 01:47:04.439 --> 01:47:06.560 our community rather than addressing key 01:47:06.640 --> 01:47:08.880 Health and Social needs for connection 01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:10.560 and inclus 01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:12.920 inclusion it would be ignorant of me not 01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:15.079 to note that of course the consumption 01:47:15.159 --> 01:47:17.640 of alcohol in public spaces can lead to 01:47:17.720 --> 01:47:20.520 antisocial behavior and noise and if and 01:47:20.600 --> 01:47:22.560 when that happens I would expect the 01:47:22.640 --> 01:47:25.119 police or designated health worker to 01:47:25.199 --> 01:47:27.399 step in and mediate the 01:47:27.479 --> 01:47:29.319 situation I'm supportive of the 01:47:29.399 --> 01:47:31.359 recommendation to pass New Year's Eve 01:47:31.439 --> 01:47:34.319 restrictions for now and also Grant an 01:47:34.399 --> 01:47:36.680 extension to the existing alcohol free 01:47:36.760 --> 01:47:38.640 and prohibited areas for another nine 01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:41.439 months doing this will permit staff to 01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:44.000 undertake a more thorough review with 01:47:44.079 --> 01:47:45.920 Police New South Wales government and 01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:48.119 health and Community agencies about a 01:47:48.199 --> 01:47:50.800 more proactive approach to managing 01:47:50.880 --> 01:47:53.560 alcohol in our streets it will also 01:47:53.640 --> 01:47:55.560 ensure that the decision comes to this 01:47:55.640 --> 01:47:57.359 Council to be voted 01:47:57.439 --> 01:48:01.800 on areas change people change behaviors 01:48:01.880 --> 01:48:03.960 and the need of our communities 01:48:04.039 --> 01:48:06.800 change I truly believe a review is in 01:48:06.880 --> 01:48:09.119 order just like Minister Graham is 01:48:09.199 --> 01:48:11.079 investigating a review of security staff 01:48:11.159 --> 01:48:13.239 on licensed premises I think we should 01:48:13.319 --> 01:48:15.560 be more trusting of our residents rather 01:48:15.640 --> 01:48:17.680 than continuing such a heavy-handed 01:48:17.760 --> 01:48:19.720 approach thank you thank you Council 01:48:19.800 --> 01:48:22.119 willing do I have any other 01:48:22.199 --> 01:48:26.000 speakers so Council Ganon sorry Lord may 01:48:26.079 --> 01:48:29.600 I just read um in point e we 01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:32.159 have Town's place in Miller's point 01:48:32.239 --> 01:48:34.399 listed and from my understanding during 01:48:34.479 --> 01:48:36.359 the briefing or the the committee when 01:48:36.439 --> 01:48:38.039 the Constable came he explained that 01:48:38.119 --> 01:48:40.319 that was an issue with party boates yeah 01:48:40.399 --> 01:48:41.880 and people getting off I was wondering 01:48:41.960 --> 01:48:44.479 can we get a rationale for why that is 01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:46.039 listed and if potentially it could be 01:48:46.119 --> 01:48:48.319 removed from this list well I I think 01:48:48.399 --> 01:48:52.399 it's it's a matter of review um if there 01:48:52.479 --> 01:48:55.000 are party people coming off party boats 01:48:55.079 --> 01:48:57.439 are intoxicated and and and misbehaving 01:48:57.520 --> 01:49:00.119 the police can deal with that they can't 01:49:00.199 --> 01:49:01.880 yeah I mean I I know it's irritating 01:49:01.960 --> 01:49:05.800 people in Miller Point um but the police 01:49:05.880 --> 01:49:09.520 can can take action about that okay 01:49:09.600 --> 01:49:11.359 thank 01:49:11.439 --> 01:49:13.399 you and I think this is the point 01:49:13.479 --> 01:49:17.279 Council sore was making that 01:49:17.359 --> 01:49:20.399 um there are powers there and and I 01:49:20.479 --> 01:49:22.720 think as Council whirling 01:49:22.800 --> 01:49:26.840 said the situation you know has changed 01:49:26.920 --> 01:49:29.000 M minister graah is looking at this too 01:49:29.079 --> 01:49:30.800 he came along to the S Hills Sydney 01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:34.000 streets just to see how opening the 01:49:34.079 --> 01:49:36.880 street up and having people outdoor 01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:39.640 dining with entertainment people walking 01:49:39.720 --> 01:49:42.119 talking it was terrific and he's now 01:49:42.199 --> 01:49:44.600 wanting to apply that in other parts of 01:49:44.680 --> 01:49:47.279 um of the metropolitan 01:49:47.359 --> 01:49:49.600 area and really want to get advice from 01:49:49.680 --> 01:49:50.560 a 01:49:50.640 --> 01:49:52.319 and we're making that available to him 01:49:52.399 --> 01:49:54.479 but it's it's along the same lines 01:49:54.560 --> 01:49:55.720 looking at the city and looking at 01:49:55.800 --> 01:49:56.600 people's 01:49:56.680 --> 01:49:59.000 needs and just questioning what might 01:49:59.079 --> 01:50:00.840 have seemed you know something that 01:50:00.920 --> 01:50:02.640 needed to be done in the '90s is it 01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:04.039 still something that needs to be done 01:50:04.119 --> 01:50:06.000 and that we haven't really had that 01:50:06.079 --> 01:50:08.399 review or got that information so I 01:50:08.479 --> 01:50:10.439 think um what's been moved by Council 01:50:10.520 --> 01:50:15.039 Davis is very good um and um and I'm I 01:50:15.119 --> 01:50:17.800 hope everyone's going to support it so 01:50:17.880 --> 01:50:22.039 we just have counc Davis 01:50:23.239 --> 01:50:25.239 I Council 01:50:25.319 --> 01:50:28.560 B thank you Lord mayor as uh councilor 01:50:28.640 --> 01:50:30.600 Ellmore and myself actually raised 01:50:30.680 --> 01:50:33.159 specific stuff around people that raise 01:50:33.239 --> 01:50:36.039 specific uh information around and 01:50:36.119 --> 01:50:38.279 directly to the police Commander that 01:50:38.359 --> 01:50:41.439 was here on the day of committees uh my 01:50:41.520 --> 01:50:44.039 concern is and I appreciate the uh 01:50:44.119 --> 01:50:45.760 motion that's been put forward but my 01:50:45.840 --> 01:50:49.239 concern is is around the social divide 01:50:49.319 --> 01:50:52.600 that where we we look at outdoor dining 01:50:52.680 --> 01:50:54.640 and the fact that those people that can 01:50:54.720 --> 01:50:57.640 do outdoor dining and can afford it with 01:50:57.720 --> 01:51:00.520 the high prices of alcohol that is 01:51:00.600 --> 01:51:03.399 actually sold with outdoor dining and 01:51:03.479 --> 01:51:05.279 when you think about the people that are 01:51:05.359 --> 01:51:08.079 likely to be arrested are not the people 01:51:08.159 --> 01:51:10.279 that can afford that so we need to be 01:51:10.359 --> 01:51:12.319 very conscious of the fact that if there 01:51:12.399 --> 01:51:14.439 are going to be decisions made in the 01:51:14.520 --> 01:51:16.319 long term but certainly it's great that 01:51:16.399 --> 01:51:17.800 it's not going to be in the long term 01:51:17.880 --> 01:51:20.439 it's a a far greater shorter term with 01:51:20.520 --> 01:51:22.960 the issues that were we had raised both 01:51:23.039 --> 01:51:25.439 Council illmore and myself to the police 01:51:25.520 --> 01:51:26.880 Commander that was here that could not 01:51:26.960 --> 01:51:29.359 answer it but also the key information 01:51:29.439 --> 01:51:31.880 around the data that was not readily 01:51:31.960 --> 01:51:34.239 available but yet there was a push to be 01:51:34.319 --> 01:51:37.000 able to make sure that those people that 01:51:37.079 --> 01:51:40.199 are living on one side of that divide is 01:51:40.279 --> 01:51:41.840 not further uh 01:51:41.920 --> 01:51:44.399 disadvantaged as I stated uh during the 01:51:44.479 --> 01:51:45.960 committee's meeting and I'll say it here 01:51:46.039 --> 01:51:48.039 again is that First Nations people 01:51:48.119 --> 01:51:50.399 Aboriginal and terit people 01:51:50.479 --> 01:51:51.960 and those that are actually living in 01:51:52.039 --> 01:51:54.840 social housing that don't have the same 01:51:54.920 --> 01:51:57.520 opportunities in their housing 01:51:57.600 --> 01:51:59.560 situations where people that are renting 01:51:59.640 --> 01:52:02.760 privately or owning um don't have the 01:52:02.840 --> 01:52:05.000 luxury to be able to have the backyards 01:52:05.079 --> 01:52:08.199 and the likes to be able to have parties 01:52:08.279 --> 01:52:11.840 and to engage and alcohol may be a part 01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:13.640 of that process and so when you try and 01:52:13.720 --> 01:52:16.039 do it in a local park or in in a certain 01:52:16.119 --> 01:52:18.520 area that's nearby social housing they 01:52:18.600 --> 01:52:20.279 will be the ones that have been targeted 01:52:20.359 --> 01:52:21.960 I know I certainly actually was just 01:52:22.039 --> 01:52:24.079 driving home from here one night after a 01:52:24.159 --> 01:52:25.520 committee meeting on what I was 01:52:25.600 --> 01:52:28.800 subjected to uh by some people that are 01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:30.279 employed by state government in 01:52:30.359 --> 01:52:32.479 particularly the police so when we 01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:35.039 actually think about uh the biases or 01:52:35.119 --> 01:52:38.880 rather that the racism that exists uh in 01:52:38.960 --> 01:52:42.159 this country but certainly in this city 01:52:42.239 --> 01:52:44.920 and we're looking at within our LGA is 01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:46.920 that there the fairness around that 01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:49.880 process is not equal and we need to be 01:52:49.960 --> 01:52:51.920 very conscious of the fact that we don't 01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:54.439 want to just have streets listed that 01:52:54.520 --> 01:52:57.640 have more about the uh the social and 01:52:57.720 --> 01:52:59.520 the affordable housing people but 01:52:59.600 --> 01:53:01.479 actually all people to be able to make 01:53:01.560 --> 01:53:03.960 sure that we are treated in a Fair Way 01:53:04.039 --> 01:53:07.439 rather than in a targeted way thank you 01:53:07.520 --> 01:53:08.560 thank 01:53:08.640 --> 01:53:11.640 you 01:53:12.880 --> 01:53:17.159 so do you wish to speak in reply 01:53:17.239 --> 01:53:20.720 Council Lord mayor I I um 01:53:20.800 --> 01:53:23.279 encourage uh everybody to think about 01:53:23.359 --> 01:53:25.800 just how serious these laws are in terms 01:53:25.880 --> 01:53:28.680 of affecting our communities and uh I 01:53:28.760 --> 01:53:30.199 agree with everything that's been said 01:53:30.279 --> 01:53:33.560 around the table here today um it's been 01:53:33.640 --> 01:53:35.720 uh you know as I said today in our 01:53:35.800 --> 01:53:38.000 meeting you know gentrification is 01:53:38.079 --> 01:53:40.399 something that's affecting all of us and 01:53:40.479 --> 01:53:42.520 um we're getting marginalized and pushed 01:53:42.600 --> 01:53:45.720 out of our communities so uh laws such 01:53:45.800 --> 01:53:49.359 as this just uh I guess enhance um some 01:53:49.439 --> 01:53:50.199 of the 01:53:50.279 --> 01:53:53.840 challenges uh around drinking freely in 01:53:53.920 --> 01:53:56.920 a park to celebrate and uh we're a 01:53:57.000 --> 01:53:59.039 joyous people we love to have fun we 01:53:59.119 --> 01:54:01.319 love music boisterous and all the rest 01:54:01.399 --> 01:54:03.600 of it just like any other 01:54:03.680 --> 01:54:06.479 party thank you councelor Davis I think 01:54:06.560 --> 01:54:08.199 there's broad agreement around the table 01:54:08.279 --> 01:54:09.560 and I think this is a really good move 01:54:09.640 --> 01:54:13.439 thank you for moving it I'll put it to 01:54:14.359 --> 01:54:17.560 you all those in favor say I those 01:54:17.640 --> 01:54:21.039 against Carr say Thank you very much item 01:54:21.119 --> 01:54:22.600 11 report of the transport Heritage and 01:54:22.680 --> 01:54:23.640 planning 01:54:23.720 --> 01:54:30.319 committee sorry 10.4 10 apologies 10.4 01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:32.840 10.5 01:54:32.920 --> 01:54:36.119 oh okay 01:54:36.920 --> 01:54:41.359 10.4 so um councelor Davis has had to 01:54:41.439 --> 01:54:43.640 leave the room because she's um 01:54:43.720 --> 01:54:47.760 expressed a a um 01:54:48.680 --> 01:54:51.960 conent conflict concept conflict of 01:54:52.039 --> 01:54:56.239 interest um and uh I will introduce it 01:54:56.319 --> 01:54:58.840 so um the reports recommending that 01:54:58.920 --> 01:55:00.560 Council approve three aage on trial rate 01:55:00.640 --> 01:55:02.680 Islander collaboration fund grants 01:55:02.760 --> 01:55:06.680 totaling 108 ,600 in cash and 20 01:55:06.760 --> 01:55:09.680 Innovation and ideas grants totaling 01:55:09.760 --> 01:55:11.880 559 01:55:11.960 --> 01:55:15.279 um, 447 in cash and 01:55:15.359 --> 01:55:18.279 17,37 value in kind and note that 01:55:18.359 --> 01:55:20.159 additional funding of 01:55:20.239 --> 01:55:23.920 87,000 um 111 for the innovation ideas 01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:25.399 program has been made available in the 01:55:25.479 --> 01:55:28.319 2324 Financial year as a result of the 01:55:28.399 --> 01:55:29.840 underspending the business sector 01:55:29.920 --> 01:55:31.840 support and Green Building Grant 01:55:31.920 --> 01:55:34.039 programs for an improved creative Grant 01:55:34.119 --> 01:55:36.560 not being accepted by the grant 01:55:36.640 --> 01:55:38.439 applicant so I'll move the 01:55:38.520 --> 01:55:40.600 recommendation um and I have the second 01:55:40.680 --> 01:55:43.600 to Here by deput Lord may do I have any 01:55:43.680 --> 01:55:44.880 speakers on this 01:55:44.960 --> 01:55:47.199 one I'll put the recommendation to you 01:55:47.279 --> 01:55:49.760 all those in favor say I those against 01:55:49.840 --> 01:55:52.840 de claric Cy thank 01:55:52.920 --> 01:55:57.279 you 10.5 01:55:59.239 --> 01:56:01.800 um this report is recommending Council 01:56:01.880 --> 01:56:04.199 approve an increased rental subsidy of 01:56:04.279 --> 01:56:07.960 100% up from 83% to beehive Industries 01:56:08.039 --> 01:56:10.279 137 Palmer Street darling Hurst for the 01:56:10.359 --> 01:56:11.880 remainder of their current 5year lease 01:56:11.960 --> 01:56:15.039 which is due to end in the 20 of June 01:56:15.119 --> 01:56:17.760 2026 and that an ad hog Grant to Lissa 01:56:17.840 --> 01:56:20.439 Minon representing sCarr Ministries to 01:56:20.520 --> 01:56:22.279 license meeting room 1 and meeting room 01:56:22.359 --> 01:56:25.640 2 ground floor GLE Town Hall 160 John's 01:56:25.720 --> 01:56:27.479 St John's Road Glee from the first of 01:56:27.560 --> 01:56:31.279 November 2023 to the 30th of June 2024 01:56:31.359 --> 01:56:33.960 and I move the officer's recommendation 01:56:34.039 --> 01:56:36.760 seconded by count Deputy L May with that 01:56:36.840 --> 01:56:38.880 two other in favor say I those against 01:56:38.960 --> 01:56:40.920 de Clare Carred uny we invite councilor 01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:44.039 Davis back now we're up to item 11 01:56:44.119 --> 01:56:45.159 report of the transport Heritage and 01:56:45.239 --> 01:56:48.239 planning committee Council 01:56:48.319 --> 01:56:50.680 chair thank thank you Lord mayor 01:56:50.760 --> 01:56:53.119 councilors have received a relevant to 01:56:53.199 --> 01:56:56.279 memo and where to note the alternative 01:56:56.359 --> 01:56:58.359 recommendation for item 01:56:58.439 --> 01:57:01.880 11.5 post exhibition planning proposal 01:57:01.960 --> 01:57:04.600 85 to 93 Commonwealth Street s Hills 01:57:04.680 --> 01:57:06.960 Sydney ELP 2012 01:57:07.039 --> 01:57:10.520 Amendment like to pull out item 01:57:10.600 --> 01:57:13.359 11.4 and recommend that Council move all 01:57:13.439 --> 01:57:17.880 other items in globo thank you so 01:57:17.960 --> 01:57:21.079 um so I have a second to for that de 01:57:21.159 --> 01:57:24.479 Lord mayor um any other items that 01:57:24.560 --> 01:57:27.720 people want pulled out so we're moving 01:57:27.800 --> 01:57:30.680 um the report of the transport Heritage 01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:32.359 and planning committee in globo because 01:57:32.439 --> 01:57:34.000 we had extensive discussion at committee 01:57:34.079 --> 01:57:37.359 last Monday apart from item 11.4 that's 01:57:37.439 --> 01:57:38.880 been moved by Council chair and seconded 01:57:38.960 --> 01:57:40.680 by deput Lord mayor I'll put that to you 01:57:40.760 --> 01:57:43.000 all those in favor say I those against 01:57:43.079 --> 01:57:45.880 declare Carrry it unanimously um so we're 01:57:45.960 --> 01:57:47.439 going to over point4 and Council chair 01:57:47.520 --> 01:57:50.119 will have to go out um and as he had a 01:57:50.199 --> 01:57:52.600 conflict of interest and um I'll will 01:57:52.680 --> 01:57:54.760 introduce and put this item to the vote 01:57:54.840 --> 01:57:56.399 the reports asking Council to note the 01:57:56.479 --> 01:57:58.000 three submissions received in response 01:57:58.079 --> 01:57:59.640 to the public exhibition and approv the 01:57:59.720 --> 01:58:02.000 planning proposal to rezone the sites 01:58:02.079 --> 01:58:04.039 from educational uses to mixed use and 01:58:04.119 --> 01:58:08.039 residential to 28 to8 Rundle Street uh 01:58:08.119 --> 01:58:10.680 and 6 to2 Paramount Road forest lodge 01:58:10.760 --> 01:58:13.479 post exhibition the item was Carrried 01:58:13.560 --> 01:58:15.920 unly by the um Central City planning 01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:17.920 committee and I'm I'll put the 01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:21.399 recommendation so by deput mayor 01:58:21.479 --> 01:58:23.640 um Council 01:58:23.720 --> 01:58:26.479 elore thanks councilors um as I've 01:58:26.560 --> 01:58:28.279 previously raised when this was put out 01:58:28.359 --> 01:58:29.960 to exhibition and at the Committees last 01:58:30.039 --> 01:58:31.720 Meek I will not be supporting voting in 01:58:31.800 --> 01:58:33.920 favor of this item I don't think it's in 01:58:34.000 --> 01:58:35.880 the public interest and we should not be 01:58:35.960 --> 01:58:38.520 um approving the rezoning of what was 01:58:38.600 --> 01:58:41.279 education um zoning that allow that was 01:58:41.359 --> 01:58:43.000 student housing effectively so the 01:58:43.079 --> 01:58:44.760 University of Sydney can sell off the 01:58:44.840 --> 01:58:47.880 land for General Revenue um Although our 01:58:47.960 --> 01:58:49.640 papers state that is that they will use 01:58:49.720 --> 01:58:51.239 that money for student housing when we 01:58:51.319 --> 01:58:52.800 had a representative from the University 01:58:52.880 --> 01:58:55.199 of Sydney there we asked them has any 01:58:55.279 --> 01:58:56.680 formal commitment been made that you 01:58:56.760 --> 01:58:58.680 will make sure that you use this money 01:58:58.760 --> 01:59:00.199 from selling student housing that had 01:59:00.279 --> 01:59:01.960 student living in it only a couple of 01:59:02.039 --> 01:59:04.439 years ago to build more student housing 01:59:04.520 --> 01:59:05.800 and the answer was they have not done 01:59:05.880 --> 01:59:08.079 anything formal so this is just general 01:59:08.159 --> 01:59:09.640 they are selling off housing that should 01:59:09.720 --> 01:59:11.920 be protected it was paid for with public 01:59:12.000 --> 01:59:13.600 money as the university is a public 01:59:13.680 --> 01:59:15.359 institution that primarily gets public 01:59:15.439 --> 01:59:17.199 money that had students living in those 01:59:17.279 --> 01:59:19.319 Terraces only a couple of years ago 01:59:19.399 --> 01:59:21.039 there are no protections that we as 01:59:21.119 --> 01:59:22.960 councilors have powers to implement to 01:59:23.039 --> 01:59:24.760 keep this as affordable housing the only 01:59:24.840 --> 01:59:26.840 thing that we could have done was to not 01:59:26.920 --> 01:59:29.399 approve the change of use and to require 01:59:29.479 --> 01:59:31.479 the university to keep those Terraces 01:59:31.560 --> 01:59:32.880 and use them as housing because then 01:59:32.960 --> 01:59:34.840 they would have stud put students back 01:59:34.920 --> 01:59:38.159 in them um so I also note that the 01:59:38.239 --> 01:59:40.239 University of Sydney's uh profit last 01:59:40.319 --> 01:59:43.520 year I think was $1.8 billion it is 01:59:43.600 --> 01:59:46.159 certainly not um needing any money in 01:59:46.239 --> 01:59:47.720 order to build more student housing if 01:59:47.800 --> 01:59:49.720 it wishes to so for for those reasons 01:59:49.800 --> 01:59:51.279 and the basis that I think it is not in 01:59:51.359 --> 01:59:52.840 the public interest and not consistent 01:59:52.920 --> 01:59:54.159 with our commitment to affordable 01:59:54.239 --> 01:59:56.199 housing is this Council I will not be 01:59:56.279 --> 01:59:57.680 supporting this planning proposal to 01:59:57.760 --> 02:00:00.479 rezone these 02:00:01.520 --> 02:00:05.920 properties so um as way of background um 02:00:06.000 --> 02:00:07.680 the planning proposal was considered as 02:00:07.760 --> 02:00:09.079 part of an item that included three 02:00:09.159 --> 02:00:11.960 separate planning proposals council's ra 02:00:12.039 --> 02:00:14.399 raised concerns about that and so it was 02:00:14.479 --> 02:00:15.760 exhibited on its own it's now being 02:00:15.840 --> 02:00:17.439 reported to Council post exhibition for 02:00:17.520 --> 02:00:19.439 endorsement the sites are own by the 02:00:19.520 --> 02:00:21.680 University of Sydney loc located away 02:00:21.760 --> 02:00:23.760 from the University campus the nine 02:00:23.840 --> 02:00:25.119 properties on the sites were used for 02:00:25.199 --> 02:00:26.479 officer storage and student 02:00:26.560 --> 02:00:28.520 accommodation they are no longer needed 02:00:28.600 --> 02:00:30.159 and the university wishes to sell them 02:00:30.239 --> 02:00:32.800 the sites has owned SP2 infrastructure 02:00:32.880 --> 02:00:34.840 educational establishment which limits 02:00:34.920 --> 02:00:36.800 their potential future use to education 02:00:36.880 --> 02:00:39.800 or supporting uses the planning proposal 02:00:39.880 --> 02:00:43.119 reson the land to mu1 mixed use to 02:00:43.199 --> 02:00:46.640 Arundle Street and R1 residential 28 to8 02:00:46.720 --> 02:00:49.760 Arundle Street and 6 to2 parameter Road 02:00:49.840 --> 02:00:51.279 these rezonings are consistent with the 02:00:51.359 --> 02:00:52.800 surrounding area the change will not 02:00:52.880 --> 02:00:56.760 increase height or floor space ratio um 02:00:56.840 --> 02:00:58.840 the 02:00:58.920 --> 02:01:00.720 um I don't 02:01:00.800 --> 02:01:03.600 think the other other issues of concern 02:01:03.680 --> 02:01:06.039 which don't relate to housing I need to 02:01:06.119 --> 02:01:08.640 mention 02:01:08.720 --> 02:01:10.760 um so we do have a letter from the 02:01:10.840 --> 02:01:13.760 Sydney University um was Pro provided in 02:01:13.840 --> 02:01:17.760 a relevant memo relevant to memo in May 02:01:17.840 --> 02:01:19.520 noted that renovating or furbishing The 02:01:19.600 --> 02:01:20.960 Terraces that were previously used for 02:01:21.039 --> 02:01:22.079 student accommodation would be 02:01:22.159 --> 02:01:23.640 prohibitively expensive while providing 02:01:23.720 --> 02:01:25.680 a very limited amount of Housing and 02:01:25.760 --> 02:01:27.079 would not meet contemporary standards 02:01:27.159 --> 02:01:29.399 for student accommodation the resoning 02:01:29.479 --> 02:01:30.920 and sale the properties will fund other 02:01:31.000 --> 02:01:33.399 student housing projects the University 02:01:33.479 --> 02:01:35.239 of Sydney has also reiterated its 02:01:35.319 --> 02:01:36.600 commitment to increasing the amount of 02:01:36.680 --> 02:01:38.880 student accommodation around its campus 02:01:38.960 --> 02:01:41.000 noting that since 2015 the university 02:01:41.079 --> 02:01:42.720 has constructed 02:01:42.800 --> 02:01:45.520 1,622 new student accommodation beds 02:01:45.600 --> 02:01:47.920 with rent set at a minimum of 25% below 02:01:48.000 --> 02:01:51.039 Market benchmarks 02:01:51.760 --> 02:01:55.159 so we have a um recommendation before us 02:01:55.239 --> 02:01:56.600 um I'll put it to you all those in favor 02:01:56.680 --> 02:01:58.960 to say 02:01:59.359 --> 02:02:02.119 I so that's opposed by councilor illmore 02:02:02.199 --> 02:02:03.760 and Council 02:02:03.840 --> 02:02:06.800 welen thank you um can we invite Council 02:02:06.880 --> 02:02:09.279 chair 02:02:13.600 --> 02:02:17.880 back item 12 property matter 02:02:17.960 --> 02:02:20.960 confidential 02:02:24.880 --> 02:02:28.439 all right what about these 02:02:28.520 --> 02:02:30.560 ones of 02:02:30.640 --> 02:02:32.600 course thank you 02:02:32.680 --> 02:02:36.039 Erin so 02:02:36.119 --> 02:02:37.920 um I'll move the officer's 02:02:38.000 --> 02:02:40.319 recommendation for item 12 which is a 02:02:40.399 --> 02:02:42.239 property matter that's confidential that 02:02:42.319 --> 02:02:44.159 Council has been briefed 02:02:44.239 --> 02:02:47.119 on um seconded by the dep Lord mayor 02:02:47.199 --> 02:02:48.439 I'll put it to you all that's in pap 02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:49.760 sayi 02:02:49.840 --> 02:02:53.840 those against CL cagey thank you item 13 02:02:53.920 --> 02:02:55.680 questions on notice item 14 02:02:55.760 --> 02:02:57.119 supplementary answers to previous 02:02:57.199 --> 02:03:00.920 questions item 15 notices of motion 15.2 02:03:01.000 --> 02:03:03.960 Stanley Street let's party Council 02:03:04.039 --> 02:03:07.119 Ganon thank you Lord mayor uh Lord mayor 02:03:07.199 --> 02:03:08.840 councils I think we can all agree that 02:03:08.920 --> 02:03:10.359 the Sydney streets events have been 02:03:10.439 --> 02:03:12.279 incredibly successful these past few 02:03:12.359 --> 02:03:14.319 months and years uh with Stanley Street 02:03:14.399 --> 02:03:17.079 being uh one of the absolute standouts 02:03:17.159 --> 02:03:18.520 apparently too successful according to 02:03:18.600 --> 02:03:20.560 the news southwes police uh who have 02:03:20.640 --> 02:03:22.279 requested we put on more crowd 02:03:22.359 --> 02:03:24.479 mitigation measures uh because it's so 02:03:24.560 --> 02:03:25.960 popular now that's a problem I'm 02:03:26.039 --> 02:03:27.520 thrilled to have and I thank staff in 02:03:27.600 --> 02:03:29.800 advance for working uh to find sensible 02:03:29.880 --> 02:03:32.439 Solutions uh in the short and medium 02:03:32.520 --> 02:03:34.680 terms uh the party at the last Stanley 02:03:34.760 --> 02:03:36.920 Street Festival is fantastic this motion 02:03:37.000 --> 02:03:38.760 is about making it easier to have them 02:03:38.840 --> 02:03:40.680 more often in a financially responsible 02:03:40.760 --> 02:03:43.119 way and to make sanley Street uh a more 02:03:43.199 --> 02:03:45.640 inviting Place year round I want Stanley 02:03:45.720 --> 02:03:47.680 Street to be known as the as City's 02:03:47.760 --> 02:03:51.520 principal Ales dining Hub uh as we all 02:03:51.600 --> 02:03:53.239 know Stanley Street is unique in its 02:03:53.319 --> 02:03:55.239 environment in that it is lined almost 02:03:55.319 --> 02:03:57.319 ex exclusively by food and beverage 02:03:57.399 --> 02:03:59.680 operators from conversations I've had 02:03:59.760 --> 02:04:01.239 with local businesses in the community 02:04:01.319 --> 02:04:03.680 everyone wants it to happen more often 02:04:03.760 --> 02:04:05.039 it would be great to see these sort of 02:04:05.119 --> 02:04:07.039 events happen more frequently particular 02:04:07.119 --> 02:04:08.399 particularly during the summer months 02:04:08.479 --> 02:04:10.600 and maybe even every weekend uh but 02:04:10.680 --> 02:04:12.039 today I received a phone call from a 02:04:12.119 --> 02:04:13.560 concerned resident who explained that 02:04:13.640 --> 02:04:15.319 there is a meeting uh the city is 02:04:15.399 --> 02:04:18.039 planning soon uh apparently DJ booths 02:04:18.119 --> 02:04:20.239 and speakers are on the agenda I'm sure 02:04:20.319 --> 02:04:22.399 I sure hope that it's to have more of 02:04:22.479 --> 02:04:25.319 them rather than less of them uh on the 02:04:25.399 --> 02:04:27.119 weekend lots of us went to the Clay 02:04:27.199 --> 02:04:29.079 Street first of all and how good was it 02:04:29.159 --> 02:04:30.880 Lively entertainment put on both by the 02:04:30.960 --> 02:04:32.840 city and local businesses made for a 02:04:32.920 --> 02:04:34.800 really really fun day these events are 02:04:34.880 --> 02:04:36.359 going from strength to strength and it's 02:04:36.439 --> 02:04:38.359 great to see them evolving and I'm 02:04:38.439 --> 02:04:39.680 really looking forward to seeing what 02:04:39.760 --> 02:04:41.359 they become in the months and years to 02:04:41.439 --> 02:04:45.720 come one quam I do have which I uh 02:04:45.800 --> 02:04:47.000 shared with Council Waring on the 02:04:47.079 --> 02:04:48.680 weekend and raised recently with coun 02:04:48.760 --> 02:04:51.439 ccil staff as well is the current lior 02:04:51.520 --> 02:04:53.560 liing lior licensing rules for these 02:04:53.640 --> 02:04:56.479 events man why you can't walk around 02:04:56.560 --> 02:04:58.560 with a beer or wine trying food from the 02:04:58.640 --> 02:04:59.439 different 02:04:59.520 --> 02:05:01.880 venues or walking between stages very 02:05:01.960 --> 02:05:03.439 topical isn't it 02:05:03.520 --> 02:05:06.920 yeah uh is uh yeah working between 02:05:07.000 --> 02:05:09.079 different music stages is truly 02:05:09.159 --> 02:05:12.119 bureaucracy gone mad uh I know new supp 02:05:12.199 --> 02:05:14.960 has a very very long and complex history 02:05:15.039 --> 02:05:17.279 with liquor regulations starting from 02:05:17.359 --> 02:05:19.479 you know the arrival of the first FL 02:05:19.560 --> 02:05:22.000 but I think it's time for a bit of a 02:05:22.079 --> 02:05:24.560 tiey up as you all mentioned previously 02:05:24.640 --> 02:05:26.239 with the bills Lord mayor that's why I'm 02:05:26.319 --> 02:05:28.359 foreshadowing the at the next council 02:05:28.439 --> 02:05:30.319 meeting I'll be putting another uh 02:05:30.399 --> 02:05:33.000 notice of motion up about Lial licensing 02:05:33.079 --> 02:05:35.359 regulations and how we can work with the 02:05:35.439 --> 02:05:36.680 government the state government agencies 02:05:36.760 --> 02:05:39.239 to make it work better for our people uh 02:05:39.319 --> 02:05:40.560 and I'll definitely engage with you 02:05:40.640 --> 02:05:43.359 early with that uh now councilors I hope 02:05:43.439 --> 02:05:45.760 you can support this notice of motion 02:05:45.840 --> 02:05:47.279 ideally 02:05:47.359 --> 02:05:50.039 unamended uh and that you can continue 02:05:50.119 --> 02:05:52.479 to support the city streets initiatives 02:05:52.560 --> 02:05:54.479 thank you Lord thank you Council 02:05:54.560 --> 02:05:57.880 Ganon Council 02:05:58.319 --> 02:06:00.399 whirling uh thank you Lord mayor and 02:06:00.479 --> 02:06:03.079 Council Ganon so are you seconding this 02:06:03.159 --> 02:06:06.000 sorry no who seconding it councilor 02:06:06.079 --> 02:06:09.399 Jared is seconding it Council 02:06:09.680 --> 02:06:11.399 Waring thank you Lord mayor and 02:06:11.479 --> 02:06:14.119 councilor Ganon for this uh notice of 02:06:14.199 --> 02:06:16.680 motion um I appreciate the intention of 02:06:16.760 --> 02:06:18.359 the the notice of motion which is to 02:06:18.439 --> 02:06:20.039 bring bring visitors into the City and 02:06:20.119 --> 02:06:22.439 support our High Street businesses and 02:06:22.520 --> 02:06:24.560 operators I'm proposing an amendment 02:06:24.640 --> 02:06:27.279 which asks the CEO to review the entire 02:06:27.359 --> 02:06:29.319 Sydney Street events program following 02:06:29.399 --> 02:06:31.840 the completion of the Season engage with 02:06:31.920 --> 02:06:34.319 local businesses services and Community 02:06:34.399 --> 02:06:36.920 groups to determine the optimal timing 02:06:37.000 --> 02:06:39.560 and frequency of events across the city 02:06:39.640 --> 02:06:42.439 including potentially winter programming 02:06:42.520 --> 02:06:44.840 and conduct a cost benefit analysis 02:06:44.920 --> 02:06:47.520 before we commit to additional events or 02:06:47.600 --> 02:06:49.800 activations 02:06:49.880 --> 02:06:51.800 um I've attended the street uh Sydney 02:06:51.880 --> 02:06:53.399 Street events since they've started I'm 02:06:53.479 --> 02:06:55.840 sure many of councilors here have 02:06:55.920 --> 02:06:58.720 too I don't think anyone could say that 02:06:58.800 --> 02:07:00.800 over the time that they haven't evolved 02:07:00.880 --> 02:07:02.560 in fact each and every year the events 02:07:02.640 --> 02:07:04.840 are growing in scope attendance and 02:07:04.920 --> 02:07:07.680 offering but let's not forget Sydney 02:07:07.760 --> 02:07:10.319 streets are not manyi city of Sydney 02:07:10.399 --> 02:07:12.840 festivals the original concept was for 02:07:12.920 --> 02:07:15.359 neighborhood street closures so that 02:07:15.439 --> 02:07:17.560 businesses could activate it was up to 02:07:17.640 --> 02:07:20.000 the businesses to get involved and the 02:07:20.079 --> 02:07:22.840 community follow it was in a bid to 02:07:22.920 --> 02:07:24.199 encourage people back to the high 02:07:24.279 --> 02:07:26.520 streets After the Dark Days of the 02:07:26.600 --> 02:07:29.720 pandemic on the weekend at pots point 02:07:29.800 --> 02:07:31.680 the event took place on a Saturday and 02:07:31.760 --> 02:07:33.039 that's you know with an enormous amount 02:07:33.119 --> 02:07:35.079 of work from City staff working with the 02:07:35.159 --> 02:07:38.000 police in particular to get it away from 02:07:38.079 --> 02:07:39.720 being on a Sunday which they would 02:07:39.800 --> 02:07:42.000 prefer to bring it into a Saturday to 02:07:42.079 --> 02:07:43.880 dovetail with the popularity of the 02:07:43.960 --> 02:07:46.239 king's cross market and I was there at 02:07:46.319 --> 02:07:49.560 midday and boy was it buzzing 02:07:49.640 --> 02:07:51.880 we um the city also you know took in a 02:07:51.960 --> 02:07:53.920 lot of consultation and you know the 02:07:54.000 --> 02:07:55.760 event footprint was changed there was 02:07:55.840 --> 02:07:58.079 less of Daring Hurst road but the 02:07:58.159 --> 02:08:00.199 Springfield Gardens Orwell Street Lan 02:08:00.279 --> 02:08:03.319 Kelly place um evolved to you know 02:08:03.399 --> 02:08:05.079 include more 02:08:05.159 --> 02:08:07.399 businesses these decisions were pulled 02:08:07.479 --> 02:08:09.000 weren't pulled out of a hat they came 02:08:09.079 --> 02:08:10.600 because of community and business 02:08:10.680 --> 02:08:12.640 feedback and from Project 02:08:12.720 --> 02:08:15.520 evaluation and if uh my weekend is 02:08:15.600 --> 02:08:18.720 anything to go by of spending most all 02:08:18.800 --> 02:08:21.039 day yesterday um talking to pots Point 02:08:21.119 --> 02:08:23.720 residents about um on Facebook and you 02:08:23.800 --> 02:08:25.279 know what there was some great for and 02:08:25.359 --> 02:08:26.840 there was some great against but you 02:08:26.920 --> 02:08:29.159 know and there were some people who had 02:08:29.239 --> 02:08:31.279 negative comments but when you actually 02:08:31.359 --> 02:08:33.000 told them the facts they were like oh I 02:08:33.079 --> 02:08:35.359 didn't realize that was the case so I 02:08:35.439 --> 02:08:37.720 think we need more information and less 02:08:37.800 --> 02:08:41.800 misinformation to our um to our 02:08:41.880 --> 02:08:44.119 residents but getting off to Stanley 02:08:44.199 --> 02:08:46.800 Street yes it's been an enormous success 02:08:46.880 --> 02:08:49.039 there is no doubt about that um and I'm 02:08:49.119 --> 02:08:50.319 very much looking forward to the next 02:08:50.399 --> 02:08:53.640 one but what I don't want to do is is it 02:08:53.720 --> 02:08:55.560 busy because it's only happening twice a 02:08:55.640 --> 02:08:58.159 year if we did it every weekend would we 02:08:58.239 --> 02:08:59.560 just water down the amount of people 02:08:59.640 --> 02:09:01.680 that came and then it wouldn't be as as 02:09:01.760 --> 02:09:03.760 effective um I think these are things we 02:09:03.840 --> 02:09:05.600 need to consider and I think that'll be 02:09:05.680 --> 02:09:06.800 part of the 02:09:06.880 --> 02:09:10.560 review but so supporting this amendment 02:09:10.640 --> 02:09:12.600 asks that the success of the entire 02:09:12.680 --> 02:09:14.600 program has reviewed and evaluated at 02:09:14.680 --> 02:09:17.199 the conclusion of the season this might 02:09:17.279 --> 02:09:19.119 include information sessions as I've 02:09:19.199 --> 02:09:21.039 mentioned targeted mail outs meeting 02:09:21.119 --> 02:09:23.880 with Precinct leaders um and speaking to 02:09:23.960 --> 02:09:26.199 local stakeholders including residents 02:09:26.279 --> 02:09:29.560 the police City staff um as they did I 02:09:29.640 --> 02:09:32.079 believe on the weekend so in conclusion 02:09:32.159 --> 02:09:34.479 councilor ganon's motion favors one 02:09:34.560 --> 02:09:36.720 event but let's not forget the context 02:09:36.800 --> 02:09:39.880 of everyone so right now there are 14 02:09:39.960 --> 02:09:41.880 events in total across seven precincts 02:09:41.960 --> 02:09:43.960 and we're halfway through them and these 02:09:44.039 --> 02:09:45.479 should all be reviewed to ensure the 02:09:45.560 --> 02:09:48.880 concept's ongoing success but uh Council 02:09:48.960 --> 02:09:52.279 ganet I really commend your Um passion 02:09:52.359 --> 02:09:54.720 to make sure that Stanley Street happens 02:09:54.800 --> 02:09:59.439 more often thank you thank you so 02:09:59.520 --> 02:10:03.720 Council elore um yes Council oh second 02:10:03.800 --> 02:10:05.479 second of the 02:10:05.560 --> 02:10:09.960 amendment Deputy May Council small thank 02:10:10.039 --> 02:10:12.239 you um I'm very happy to support the 02:10:12.319 --> 02:10:14.720 original motion also the the amendment 02:10:14.800 --> 02:10:16.319 um I think a broader review is very 02:10:16.399 --> 02:10:18.680 helpful I wanted to provide some ment I 02:10:18.760 --> 02:10:20.359 don't propose any further amendments but 02:10:20.439 --> 02:10:22.039 um councilors might recall that we made 02:10:22.119 --> 02:10:24.039 a decision to ask the staff to 02:10:24.119 --> 02:10:25.880 investigate um the potential to have 02:10:25.960 --> 02:10:27.840 some form of Sydney streets in New Town 02:10:27.920 --> 02:10:29.319 after the New Town Festival was closed 02:10:29.399 --> 02:10:31.920 down and um to do that we'd need to do 02:10:32.000 --> 02:10:33.560 that in coordination with the inner West 02:10:33.640 --> 02:10:35.680 Council which is the bordering Council 02:10:35.760 --> 02:10:38.079 we have King Street um together and that 02:10:38.159 --> 02:10:40.239 there was a supportive motion duplicate 02:10:40.319 --> 02:10:42.520 motion from the in West Council I 02:10:42.600 --> 02:10:44.359 understand that since the um police have 02:10:44.439 --> 02:10:46.319 said you can't close that road of course 02:10:46.399 --> 02:10:47.840 they were going to say that um I would 02:10:47.920 --> 02:10:49.119 be interested interested to find out how 02:10:49.199 --> 02:10:50.560 many of the other roads there was 02:10:50.640 --> 02:10:52.680 initial resistance from and because at 02:10:52.760 --> 02:10:55.399 the moment we have a program where it is 02:10:55.479 --> 02:10:57.199 focused on the CBD as was mentioned but 02:10:57.279 --> 02:10:58.800 we also have the high streets of Redfern 02:10:58.880 --> 02:11:00.960 and gleo road but we don't have anything 02:11:01.039 --> 02:11:02.800 for Alexandria green square zetland 02:11:02.880 --> 02:11:04.399 Newtown Kenville or camper down there's 02:11:04.479 --> 02:11:07.039 huge sections of our um local government 02:11:07.119 --> 02:11:08.880 area that also have high streets who 02:11:08.960 --> 02:11:11.800 would benefit who are not included um 02:11:11.880 --> 02:11:13.199 some of those streets that we have 02:11:13.279 --> 02:11:15.079 Sydney festivals for have also very 02:11:15.159 --> 02:11:16.960 fledgling business chambers that need a 02:11:17.039 --> 02:11:18.760 lot of support to get going in the first 02:11:18.840 --> 02:11:21.199 Sydney streets were not as successful as 02:11:21.279 --> 02:11:23.159 the later ones and the other high 02:11:23.239 --> 02:11:26.600 streets have that case also um and I do 02:11:26.680 --> 02:11:27.960 think it's appropriate as we have the 02:11:28.039 --> 02:11:30.600 review to be moving from not a postco 02:11:30.680 --> 02:11:32.479 time to but how are we bringing the 02:11:32.560 --> 02:11:34.159 community together and making this more 02:11:34.239 --> 02:11:36.199 than a primarily business focused event 02:11:36.279 --> 02:11:37.840 one of the feedback we got from talking 02:11:37.920 --> 02:11:39.520 to the Newtown Neighborhood Center was 02:11:39.600 --> 02:11:42.800 that they're not necessarily in um one 02:11:42.880 --> 02:11:44.960 giant Street party on King Street may 02:11:45.039 --> 02:11:46.600 not be as helpful as doing something 02:11:46.680 --> 02:11:48.600 where we enable a whole series of 02:11:48.680 --> 02:11:50.640 coordinated small Street parties 02:11:50.720 --> 02:11:52.079 supporting the local businesses 02:11:52.159 --> 02:11:54.159 connected to them say connected to the 02:11:54.239 --> 02:11:56.560 the South King Festival that um the no 02:11:56.640 --> 02:11:58.319 council is organizing but we didn't 02:11:58.399 --> 02:12:00.000 participate in even though we were on 02:12:00.079 --> 02:12:01.239 the other side of the street when they 02:12:01.319 --> 02:12:03.359 held it and it's not quite clear why 02:12:03.439 --> 02:12:04.920 that didn't happen or whether we we 02:12:05.000 --> 02:12:07.319 would be able to be a partner next time 02:12:07.399 --> 02:12:08.600 um but certainly we've got some more 02:12:08.680 --> 02:12:10.479 communication to do with our inest 02:12:10.560 --> 02:12:12.880 comrades around that um I think the 02:12:12.960 --> 02:12:15.159 review is a valuable time to look at not 02:12:15.239 --> 02:12:17.079 just how we keep the things that work 02:12:17.159 --> 02:12:19.239 but how we think about who's missing out 02:12:19.319 --> 02:12:21.279 currently and how this program can 02:12:21.359 --> 02:12:24.119 evolve um to be a permanent fixture that 02:12:24.199 --> 02:12:26.399 benefits our whole city and more areas 02:12:26.479 --> 02:12:28.319 and I would personally be very keen to 02:12:28.399 --> 02:12:31.439 vote in favor of expanding in that 02:12:31.520 --> 02:12:35.239 direction thank you do I have any other 02:12:35.319 --> 02:12:37.960 speakers I I'd just like to say that I I 02:12:38.039 --> 02:12:39.720 think we did this for two reasons one 02:12:39.800 --> 02:12:42.079 was to support business after Co and the 02:12:42.159 --> 02:12:44.000 other was to make it safe for people to 02:12:44.079 --> 02:12:46.479 come together and socialize after covid 02:12:46.560 --> 02:12:50.359 um and I think it's a as been I think 02:12:50.439 --> 02:12:53.680 they have been as a much benefit to the 02:12:53.760 --> 02:12:55.159 residents in the communities as it has 02:12:55.239 --> 02:12:57.840 been to the businesses I think it has 02:12:57.920 --> 02:12:59.520 enabled those communities to come 02:12:59.600 --> 02:13:02.199 together in in a public Street quite 02:13:02.279 --> 02:13:03.720 liberated because there are no Carrs 02:13:03.800 --> 02:13:07.199 there um and and um it's also been quite 02:13:07.279 --> 02:13:09.920 fantastic for the support we've given to 02:13:10.000 --> 02:13:13.079 our our our entertainers they had a 02:13:13.159 --> 02:13:15.119 terrible time during Co they got no work 02:13:15.199 --> 02:13:18.279 at all and they've had work and it's 02:13:18.359 --> 02:13:20.960 it's been quite joyful having having 02:13:21.039 --> 02:13:22.279 them about they've been different in 02:13:22.359 --> 02:13:23.520 different areas and they've done 02:13:23.600 --> 02:13:25.119 different things but they've brought 02:13:25.199 --> 02:13:26.880 lots of pleasure but I think one of the 02:13:26.960 --> 02:13:28.880 main things has been bringing the 02:13:28.960 --> 02:13:30.640 community generally together residents 02:13:30.720 --> 02:13:34.840 and businesses and um I know that um 02:13:34.920 --> 02:13:37.600 whilst we haven't been able to do one in 02:13:37.680 --> 02:13:41.159 green square yet um we certainly have 02:13:41.239 --> 02:13:43.960 plans to do one there you know in the 02:13:44.039 --> 02:13:46.159 future and I I think the other South 02:13:46.239 --> 02:13:48.399 Sydney ones like Redfern Street 02:13:48.479 --> 02:13:50.279 have been attended by other people in 02:13:50.359 --> 02:13:51.800 the South Sydney former South Sydney 02:13:51.880 --> 02:13:56.359 area um but the review can look at at at 02:13:56.439 --> 02:14:00.239 what other opportunities there are and 02:14:00.319 --> 02:14:02.119 and also I think they've been different 02:14:02.199 --> 02:14:03.399 in the different areas theyve really 02:14:03.479 --> 02:14:04.600 been about a celebration of the 02:14:04.680 --> 02:14:05.760 different areas it's been quite 02:14:05.840 --> 02:14:07.479 fantastic and see how the differences 02:14:07.560 --> 02:14:12.439 there um and um and I I think it's been 02:14:12.520 --> 02:14:14.039 um a tremendous thing and I've got to 02:14:14.119 --> 02:14:16.279 say Minister Graham who came to the sah 02:14:16.359 --> 02:14:18.359 Hills one just to check it out was very 02:14:18.439 --> 02:14:20.239 impressed and is going to do it in areas 02:14:20.319 --> 02:14:22.560 like param mattin now and other areas 02:14:22.640 --> 02:14:25.000 the metropolitan areas so I think that's 02:14:25.079 --> 02:14:29.000 terrific too and all all all that U we 02:14:29.079 --> 02:14:30.279 have learned through doing this work we 02:14:30.359 --> 02:14:31.760 can share with those other metropolitan 02:14:31.840 --> 02:14:33.840 areas because I think it's really a 02:14:33.920 --> 02:14:35.920 really good for Community Building as 02:14:36.000 --> 02:14:37.720 well as business 02:14:37.800 --> 02:14:40.319 support so um thank you for that Council 02:14:40.399 --> 02:14:43.079 Ganon and um thank you for agreeing to 02:14:43.159 --> 02:14:45.560 accept the 02:14:45.840 --> 02:14:49.760 amendment he has Oh I thought you 02:14:49.840 --> 02:14:51.760 did so it's we're dealing with an 02:14:51.840 --> 02:14:56.800 amended motion yeah and um is that are 02:14:56.880 --> 02:14:58.279 you happy with that Council Jared your 02:14:58.359 --> 02:15:01.039 as a second yeah so I'll put the amended 02:15:01.119 --> 02:15:03.399 motion to you all those in favor say 02:15:03.479 --> 02:15:06.880 I those against Carr Carrried you know say 02:15:06.960 --> 02:15:08.159 thank 02:15:08.239 --> 02:15:11.479 you item 15.3 city of Sydney East scoter 02:15:11.560 --> 02:15:13.399 trial Council 02:15:13.479 --> 02:15:16.720 Jared um thank you Lord 02:15:16.800 --> 02:15:19.079 mayor not quite too sure what the 02:15:19.159 --> 02:15:21.239 procedures are here but councilor Chan 02:15:21.319 --> 02:15:23.239 has put forward a number of amendments 02:15:23.319 --> 02:15:25.600 to um my notice of motion most of which 02:15:25.680 --> 02:15:28.439 I'm happy to accept except for his 02:15:28.520 --> 02:15:30.840 proposed amendments to Clause 02:15:30.920 --> 02:15:33.600 15 um and I'd like to be able to address 02:15:33.680 --> 02:15:37.319 them all in one go is that 02:15:46.800 --> 02:15:49.079 possible 02:15:49.159 --> 02:15:50.800 yes so Council 02:15:50.880 --> 02:15:53.319 yeah you can do that coun that thank you 02:15:53.399 --> 02:15:56.680 very much Lord mayor um this is an not 02:15:56.760 --> 02:16:00.000 motion that recognizes the importance of 02:16:00.079 --> 02:16:02.640 once again implementing an EO to trial 02:16:02.720 --> 02:16:05.520 within the city of Sydney we've seen the 02:16:05.600 --> 02:16:08.640 very successful Wong city um Council e 02:16:08.720 --> 02:16:10.680 scoter trial that commenced in September 02:16:10.760 --> 02:16:11.520 this 02:16:11.600 --> 02:16:14.600 year this motion builds upon my pre 02:16:14.680 --> 02:16:16.640 previous notice of motion from June last 02:16:16.720 --> 02:16:18.079 year when I called upon on the city of 02:16:18.159 --> 02:16:20.439 Sydney to participate in the then New 02:16:20.520 --> 02:16:22.880 South Wales government's East gter 02:16:22.960 --> 02:16:25.319 trial unfortunately instead of being a 02:16:25.399 --> 02:16:27.560 leader in driving down emissions and 02:16:27.640 --> 02:16:29.319 advocating for Alternative forms of 02:16:29.399 --> 02:16:32.319 sustainable transport the city led by 02:16:32.399 --> 02:16:34.440 the Clover Moore Independence amended 02:16:34.520 --> 02:16:37.840 that June 22 um motion and in sought 02:16:37.920 --> 02:16:40.280 instead to take a back seat and observe 02:16:40.360 --> 02:16:42.399 other councils who were committing to 02:16:42.479 --> 02:16:45.520 participating in that then East gter 02:16:45.600 --> 02:16:48.959 trial due to the city's complacency in 02:16:49.040 --> 02:16:51.120 September this year Woolen gong was the 02:16:51.200 --> 02:16:52.879 first city center in New South Wales to 02:16:52.959 --> 02:16:55.280 launch a dedicated East scooter trial of 02:16:55.360 --> 02:16:57.719 some 300 E Scooters operating within 02:16:57.799 --> 02:17:00.879 their City Hub the Woolen gong e scooter 02:17:00.959 --> 02:17:03.719 trial highlighted incredible results in 02:17:03.799 --> 02:17:06.639 just over 6 weeks more than 46,000 trips 02:17:06.719 --> 02:17:09.000 were taken from the 300 strong Fleet of 02:17:09.079 --> 02:17:12.440 E Scooters trial also demonstrated the 02:17:12.520 --> 02:17:15.000 safety of those trials with incidences 02:17:15.079 --> 02:17:16.760 remaining low and in line with the 02:17:16.840 --> 02:17:19.079 expectations that had been 02:17:19.159 --> 02:17:22.040 forecast despite having had almost 18 02:17:22.120 --> 02:17:24.760 months to report back to council and 02:17:24.840 --> 02:17:26.879 despite asking us as a council to 02:17:26.959 --> 02:17:29.120 endorse the city of Sydney's access 02:17:29.200 --> 02:17:32.000 strategy and action plan continuing the 02:17:32.079 --> 02:17:36.040 vision at our June Council this year 02:17:36.120 --> 02:17:38.639 there's been no response yet by the city 02:17:38.719 --> 02:17:41.000 regarding how we can incorporate es 02:17:41.079 --> 02:17:43.280 scooters into our transport Fleet 02:17:43.360 --> 02:17:45.719 transition we've got bikes and we've got 02:17:45.799 --> 02:17:48.639 ebikes but not e 02:17:48.719 --> 02:17:51.479 scooters I've noted the Amendments that 02:17:51.559 --> 02:17:54.200 Council Chan has requested and I accept 02:17:54.280 --> 02:17:56.079 them all except for the changes he 02:17:56.159 --> 02:17:59.760 proposes to uh paragraph 02:17:59.840 --> 02:18:02.799 15 once again the changes that are in 02:18:02.879 --> 02:18:06.959 paragraph 15 demonstrate the city's 02:18:07.040 --> 02:18:09.799 being a follower in all of this rather 02:18:09.879 --> 02:18:11.559 than a leader when it comes to 02:18:11.639 --> 02:18:14.200 Alternative green transport options for 02:18:14.280 --> 02:18:16.559 Sydney to reduce our emissions and meet 02:18:16.639 --> 02:18:20.000 our net zero Target and yes I am a 02:18:20.079 --> 02:18:22.120 liberal counselor and I do believe in 02:18:22.200 --> 02:18:24.120 what the city is setting out to 02:18:24.200 --> 02:18:27.120 do the Amendments fail to take any 02:18:27.200 --> 02:18:29.879 action and they absolve the city of any 02:18:29.959 --> 02:18:31.719 responsibility in leadership when it 02:18:31.799 --> 02:18:34.159 comes to taking action on getting the 02:18:34.239 --> 02:18:36.799 Carrs out of the city and encouraging 02:18:36.879 --> 02:18:39.280 residents and visitors to go green with 02:18:39.360 --> 02:18:43.760 an E scooter we can start our e scooter 02:18:43.840 --> 02:18:46.760 trial now if we want to we have a 02:18:46.840 --> 02:18:50.520 network on which bikes and ebikes travel 02:18:50.600 --> 02:18:52.840 the there's no reason for the whole of 02:18:52.920 --> 02:18:54.680 the bike Network to be finished before 02:18:54.760 --> 02:18:57.079 we can try E 02:18:57.159 --> 02:18:59.799 Scooters instead of waiting on the 02:18:59.879 --> 02:19:02.239 Ministry of Transport and only getting 02:19:02.319 --> 02:19:04.440 advice as to rather than actually 02:19:04.520 --> 02:19:07.000 putting forward options for how we can 02:19:07.079 --> 02:19:09.159 move forward unfortunately the 02:19:09.239 --> 02:19:11.920 amendments to 15 make the city of Sydney 02:19:12.000 --> 02:19:14.959 once again a second placed City when it 02:19:15.040 --> 02:19:17.959 comes to Alternative green transport 02:19:18.040 --> 02:19:21.239 Melbourne Adelaide Brisbane Perth even 02:19:21.319 --> 02:19:24.399 Darwin have E Scooters and some of them 02:19:24.479 --> 02:19:27.760 have had them for years London a city 02:19:27.840 --> 02:19:31.479 that this Council admires a lot and La 02:19:31.559 --> 02:19:34.120 have E Scooters but the Sydney of city 02:19:34.200 --> 02:19:36.719 is still stuck in the Carr ages when it 02:19:36.799 --> 02:19:38.920 comes to providing alternative energy 02:19:39.000 --> 02:19:40.799 efficient 02:19:40.879 --> 02:19:42.639 Transportation I'm hoping that the 02:19:42.719 --> 02:19:45.399 support for this motion will further 02:19:45.479 --> 02:19:47.559 address the signature issue of of 02:19:47.639 --> 02:19:50.200 providing a framework as to how the city 02:19:50.280 --> 02:19:52.639 can incorporate e SCS into its transport 02:19:52.719 --> 02:19:55.520 Fleet transition and ensure that it is 02:19:55.600 --> 02:19:57.760 actively encouraging and implementing 02:19:57.840 --> 02:20:00.399 strategies that align with its own 02:20:00.479 --> 02:20:03.000 policies the motion attempts to at least 02:20:03.079 --> 02:20:05.319 provide a step in the right direction in 02:20:05.399 --> 02:20:07.440 determining a plan to address the 02:20:07.520 --> 02:20:09.399 inadequacy of the city's current 02:20:09.479 --> 02:20:12.280 strategies for alternative 02:20:12.360 --> 02:20:15.280 transport as we see with Woolen gong the 02:20:15.360 --> 02:20:17.479 benefits of E Scooters are boundless 02:20:17.559 --> 02:20:20.000 based on Australian wide statistics it's 02:20:20.079 --> 02:20:21.680 estimated that throughout the duration 02:20:21.760 --> 02:20:25.360 of the woong trial alone 45,000 km of 02:20:25.440 --> 02:20:28.559 Carr trips were replaced by es scooters 02:20:28.639 --> 02:20:30.840 increasing small business Revenue by 02:20:30.920 --> 02:20:33.479 approximately $200,000 of incremental 02:20:33.559 --> 02:20:35.520 spending you can hop on an e scooter at 02:20:35.600 --> 02:20:38.239 Central come into town buy your coffee 02:20:38.319 --> 02:20:39.879 whatever else you want to do take your e 02:20:39.959 --> 02:20:42.639 scooter back to Central and you've done 02:20:42.719 --> 02:20:44.440 nothing to damage the 02:20:44.520 --> 02:20:47.879 city and it also saves around apparently 02:20:47.959 --> 02:20:50.360 6,000 tons of Carrbon 02:20:50.440 --> 02:20:52.879 dioxide many of these issues have been 02:20:52.959 --> 02:20:55.159 raised in the past that have been raised 02:20:55.239 --> 02:20:56.840 in the past with respect to issues 02:20:56.920 --> 02:20:59.959 around ECA trials such as parking and 02:21:00.040 --> 02:21:03.239 speed and helmets are now answerable by 02:21:03.319 --> 02:21:04.840 apps and 02:21:04.920 --> 02:21:07.040 Technology um and by the attention of 02:21:07.120 --> 02:21:09.319 the local Council involved in actually 02:21:09.399 --> 02:21:11.920 addressing their concerns that they have 02:21:12.000 --> 02:21:14.680 such as mandatory parking spaces 02:21:14.760 --> 02:21:17.680 insurance coverage can be included 02:21:17.760 --> 02:21:20.239 in existing compulsory registration 02:21:20.319 --> 02:21:22.479 schemes maybe while we're at it we can 02:21:22.559 --> 02:21:24.760 advocate for bicycles and E bicycles to 02:21:24.840 --> 02:21:27.280 be registed so Council Jared do you need 02:21:27.360 --> 02:21:30.120 a minutes finish thank you I recommend 02:21:30.200 --> 02:21:33.239 this motion to enable us to be again 02:21:33.319 --> 02:21:35.479 leaders in what we talk 02:21:35.559 --> 02:21:39.280 about so miss seconder Council 02:21:39.360 --> 02:21:42.319 Ganon Council 02:21:42.399 --> 02:21:44.760 Chan Lord mayor I wish to move my 02:21:44.840 --> 02:21:46.479 amendments that I have circulated and I 02:21:46.559 --> 02:21:48.200 wish to speak to the 02:21:48.280 --> 02:21:51.920 amendment so 02:21:53.520 --> 02:21:57.000 um so how does 02:22:00.200 --> 02:22:02.959 that so right so you're 02:22:03.040 --> 02:22:05.600 speaking thank you uh firstly the new 02:22:05.680 --> 02:22:07.959 southwes government trial assessment 02:22:08.040 --> 02:22:10.959 report be a second second for Council 02:22:11.040 --> 02:22:12.600 your second 02:22:12.680 --> 02:22:17.360 y Council Cox seconded the 15 y firstly 02:22:17.440 --> 02:22:18.600 the New South Wales government trial 02:22:18.680 --> 02:22:20.840 assessment report is not yet available 02:22:20.920 --> 02:22:24.520 and secondly the need to prioritize safe 02:22:24.600 --> 02:22:27.360 infrastructure for ES scooter riding 02:22:27.440 --> 02:22:29.840 within the city of syney remains 02:22:29.920 --> 02:22:32.280 critical I want to make it clear that 02:22:32.360 --> 02:22:33.959 this is a trial that was introduced by 02:22:34.040 --> 02:22:36.639 the New South Wales government it is not 02:22:36.719 --> 02:22:38.879 reasonable to ask our CEO to report back 02:22:38.959 --> 02:22:41.159 to Council on data and observations 02:22:41.239 --> 02:22:43.799 conducted by the state government Lord 02:22:43.879 --> 02:22:46.159 mayor this was not our trial Wong gong 02:22:46.239 --> 02:22:47.760 is not in our city 02:22:47.840 --> 02:22:50.120 however that being said my Amendment 02:22:50.200 --> 02:22:52.920 does call on the CEO to request this 02:22:53.000 --> 02:22:54.239 information from the new southwales 02:22:54.319 --> 02:22:55.639 secretary of 02:22:55.719 --> 02:22:58.280 Transport I also want to point out that 02:22:58.360 --> 02:23:00.479 the will onone data presented tonight is 02:23:00.559 --> 02:23:03.600 from neuron Mobility the commercial 02:23:03.680 --> 02:23:05.959 share scheme operator of the E Scooters 02:23:06.040 --> 02:23:08.200 from the Willing gong program the New 02:23:08.280 --> 02:23:10.440 South Wales government is yet to 02:23:10.520 --> 02:23:12.959 confirm or to formally assess the E 02:23:13.040 --> 02:23:15.079 scooter trial across the various trial 02:23:15.159 --> 02:23:17.760 locations that's why my amend ask the 02:23:17.840 --> 02:23:20.280 New South Wales government on when their 02:23:20.360 --> 02:23:22.520 assessment will be available and whether 02:23:22.600 --> 02:23:26.799 they will include any independent 02:23:28.840 --> 02:23:32.280 data cancer 02:23:35.120 --> 02:23:36.600 Scot 02:23:36.680 --> 02:23:39.399 CH Lord mayor the city of Sydney is 02:23:39.479 --> 02:23:41.360 different to Wong gong as it has already 02:23:41.440 --> 02:23:44.040 been discussed last year in the these 02:23:44.120 --> 02:23:46.280 council chambers the new sells 02:23:46.360 --> 02:23:48.440 government trial conditions allowed only 02:23:48.520 --> 02:23:50.840 riding es scooters on bike paths and 02:23:50.920 --> 02:23:54.159 shared paths at the moment most trips 02:23:54.239 --> 02:23:56.280 would not qualify under the city of 02:23:56.360 --> 02:23:58.639 Sydney due to the fragmentation of the 02:23:58.719 --> 02:24:00.360 city's cycleway 02:24:00.440 --> 02:24:03.200 Network as our cycleway Network becomes 02:24:03.280 --> 02:24:05.600 more fully delivered the options for a 02:24:05.680 --> 02:24:08.479 safer trial on separated bike paths 02:24:08.559 --> 02:24:11.639 become greater councilor Jarrett rightly 02:24:11.719 --> 02:24:14.000 points that we have bikes and 02:24:14.079 --> 02:24:16.159 ebikes because that situation is 02:24:16.239 --> 02:24:18.600 different right now cyclists can join 02:24:18.680 --> 02:24:21.719 the flow of vehicle traffic on road to 02:24:21.799 --> 02:24:25.120 fill in gaps in our cycleway network but 02:24:25.200 --> 02:24:27.200 this option isn't available to people on 02:24:27.280 --> 02:24:29.280 scooters due to the new self Welles 02:24:29.360 --> 02:24:30.959 government and their trial that they're 02:24:31.040 --> 02:24:34.000 doing now so really this is about safety 02:24:34.079 --> 02:24:36.360 Lord mayor the reality of the city of 02:24:36.440 --> 02:24:38.280 Sydney is that we have higher levels of 02:24:38.360 --> 02:24:40.799 path congestion and contested space 02:24:40.879 --> 02:24:43.440 compared to other councils in Regional 02:24:43.520 --> 02:24:45.040 centers including the 02:24:45.120 --> 02:24:48.120 ilara different speeds of Mobility 02:24:48.200 --> 02:24:49.840 require different types of 02:24:49.920 --> 02:24:52.120 infrastructure it is critical that E 02:24:52.200 --> 02:24:54.360 Scooters are not in conflict with 02:24:54.440 --> 02:24:58.280 pedestrians or Vehicles safety is at the 02:24:58.360 --> 02:25:00.239 core of this matter for the city of 02:25:00.319 --> 02:25:03.399 Sydney which is why I ask councilors to 02:25:03.479 --> 02:25:05.440 continue to support the city separated 02:25:05.520 --> 02:25:09.079 cycleway Network Brisbane City Council 02:25:09.159 --> 02:25:11.000 has in fact introduced these scooters in 02:25:11.079 --> 02:25:13.200 their city center and their own strategy 02:25:13.280 --> 02:25:17.120 notes the dangers of es scooters of 02:25:17.200 --> 02:25:19.600 confirmed e-mobility injuries presented 02:25:19.680 --> 02:25:23.680 at Brisbane hospitals 92% related to E 02:25:23.760 --> 02:25:27.399 Scooters and of those 78% were related 02:25:27.479 --> 02:25:30.840 to sharing schemes es 02:25:30.920 --> 02:25:33.399 scooters with the most people presenting 02:25:33.479 --> 02:25:35.959 to emergency departments on a weekend or 02:25:36.040 --> 02:25:38.079 a Monday between the hours of 6:00 p.m. 02:25:38.159 --> 02:25:40.840 and 12: midnight a separate independent 02:25:40.920 --> 02:25:44.040 study found that 46% of injured people 02:25:44.120 --> 02:25:46.319 were riding without a helmet and alcohol 02:25:46.399 --> 02:25:49.680 was inv involved in 27% of cases so the 02:25:49.760 --> 02:25:51.879 best option is for our city to continue 02:25:51.959 --> 02:25:54.799 to build safe and separated cycle rats 02:25:54.879 --> 02:25:56.159 and for the New South Wales government 02:25:56.239 --> 02:25:58.799 to continue to build safe and separated 02:25:58.879 --> 02:26:01.479 cycleways as we continue to expand the 02:26:01.559 --> 02:26:04.319 walkability of Sydney and continue our 02:26:04.399 --> 02:26:06.120 work developing safe and efficient 02:26:06.200 --> 02:26:09.360 cycleways cycling and Es scooters 02:26:09.440 --> 02:26:11.719 provide the city with transport services 02:26:11.799 --> 02:26:14.280 and infrastructure that enhance and 02:26:14.360 --> 02:26:17.520 supplement travel walking cing as well 02:26:17.600 --> 02:26:19.799 as the replacements for short Carr trips 02:26:19.879 --> 02:26:23.120 especially for the first and last 02:26:23.200 --> 02:26:25.399 kilometer Lord may we all want to see 02:26:25.479 --> 02:26:27.600 this work to give this technology its 02:26:27.680 --> 02:26:30.319 best chance particularly in regards to 02:26:30.399 --> 02:26:33.000 the safety of our community once we have 02:26:33.079 --> 02:26:35.440 the right infrastructure in place the 02:26:35.520 --> 02:26:37.680 safety of our Riders we can ensure that 02:26:37.760 --> 02:26:39.479 the city of Sydney can adopt an 02:26:39.559 --> 02:26:42.000 e-mobility service model in a way that 02:26:42.079 --> 02:26:44.760 serves all of those in Sydney one that 02:26:44.840 --> 02:26:46.719 considers all future es scooter used 02:26:46.799 --> 02:26:49.840 users cyclists pedestrians and drivers 02:26:49.920 --> 02:26:53.319 thank you thank you Council 02:26:53.399 --> 02:26:56.000 chair we're on the amendment moved by 02:26:56.079 --> 02:26:58.040 Council 02:26:58.120 --> 02:27:01.200 Chan do we have any other speakers so 02:27:01.280 --> 02:27:04.719 I'll put the council Waring just one 02:27:04.799 --> 02:27:07.520 thing I'd like to um just clarify um 02:27:07.600 --> 02:27:09.159 councilor Jared says we're still in the 02:27:09.239 --> 02:27:11.879 Carr era and I have to say I slightly 02:27:11.959 --> 02:27:14.120 take offense to that because so you're 02:27:14.200 --> 02:27:17.239 now speaking to I just can I speak to 02:27:17.319 --> 02:27:19.319 that to the amendment you can speak to 02:27:19.399 --> 02:27:20.520 the amendment 02:27:20.600 --> 02:27:22.680 yes but I just like to say I don't 02:27:22.760 --> 02:27:24.680 believe we are in the Carr era at all I 02:27:24.760 --> 02:27:26.920 think we've well and truly moved on um 02:27:27.000 --> 02:27:28.760 and we've proven that with all the uh 02:27:28.840 --> 02:27:31.200 cycleways and you know bikes that we 02:27:31.280 --> 02:27:32.559 have in our city and you've only got to 02:27:32.639 --> 02:27:33.959 look out here at George Street to the 02:27:34.040 --> 02:27:37.079 change that we've had out 02:27:37.159 --> 02:27:41.680 there Council Wen thank you just further 02:27:41.760 --> 02:27:44.559 to C councelor Wan's comment and also 02:27:44.639 --> 02:27:47.479 councelor Chain's about the separate 02:27:47.559 --> 02:27:50.079 cycleways and safety I've raised 02:27:50.159 --> 02:27:51.920 previously uh particularly with Bridge 02:27:52.000 --> 02:27:54.120 Road but also with all the cycleways 02:27:54.200 --> 02:27:56.040 which we have actually rolled out in a 02:27:56.120 --> 02:27:59.360 real haphazard way that uh it isn't safe 02:27:59.440 --> 02:28:01.040 and I actually get approached on a 02:28:01.120 --> 02:28:03.399 regular basis from cyclist themselves to 02:28:03.479 --> 02:28:05.079 actually talk about how dangerous they 02:28:05.159 --> 02:28:08.879 are in fact when I actually do walk uh 02:28:08.959 --> 02:28:11.600 along the streets uh here in the city I 02:28:11.680 --> 02:28:13.719 have many cyclists that are actually on 02:28:13.799 --> 02:28:15.799 the roads and when I do speak to them 02:28:15.879 --> 02:28:17.959 they say it is safer for us to be on the 02:28:18.040 --> 02:28:20.319 roads than it is on the cycleways so in 02:28:20.399 --> 02:28:23.159 terms of how we have not addressed key 02:28:23.239 --> 02:28:26.120 things in the uh in George Street yes 02:28:26.200 --> 02:28:28.239 cycle cyclists are not meant to be 02:28:28.319 --> 02:28:30.399 driving uh riding their bikes along 02:28:30.479 --> 02:28:33.399 George Street but they do because of the 02:28:33.479 --> 02:28:35.520 limitations around the cycleway in the 02:28:35.600 --> 02:28:39.319 city so although we think that uh Carrs 02:28:39.399 --> 02:28:41.760 are not needed and that we're also 02:28:41.840 --> 02:28:43.799 saying that East scooters may not be 02:28:43.879 --> 02:28:45.920 their appropriate way when we look at 02:28:46.000 --> 02:28:48.680 cities uh around the world and we look 02:28:48.760 --> 02:28:51.239 at cities around this country we are not 02:28:51.319 --> 02:28:54.719 in the same place when we come to 02:28:54.799 --> 02:28:57.520 Sydney do I have any other 02:28:57.600 --> 02:29:00.239 speakers we we had Yan Gil here last 02:29:00.319 --> 02:29:03.360 week who is renowned urbanist who has 02:29:03.440 --> 02:29:06.000 given us advice on um George Street and 02:29:06.079 --> 02:29:07.479 given us advice on 02:29:07.559 --> 02:29:12.920 cycleways and uh who has has has studied 02:29:13.000 --> 02:29:15.920 many and advised many cities in 02:29:16.000 --> 02:29:19.079 Australia and in in in the US and in 02:29:19.159 --> 02:29:25.040 Europe um and um he uh was out here to 02:29:25.120 --> 02:29:26.639 really report on progress that Sydney 02:29:26.719 --> 02:29:30.000 had made since he first did a report um 02:29:30.079 --> 02:29:35.079 some decade ago and he was very very 02:29:35.159 --> 02:29:38.120 positive about the uh the progress that 02:29:38.200 --> 02:29:41.000 um that Sydney has made so it is a fact 02:29:41.079 --> 02:29:44.040 that um our our separated cycle ways 02:29:44.120 --> 02:29:46.159 have dramatically increased usage and 02:29:46.239 --> 02:29:49.040 say safety um have reduced numbers of 02:29:49.120 --> 02:29:52.200 people in overcrowded um buses and 02:29:52.280 --> 02:29:54.440 reduced numbers of Carrs in the city and 02:29:54.520 --> 02:29:56.200 all that has been of great benefit in 02:29:56.280 --> 02:29:58.440 terms of reducing emissions creating a 02:29:58.520 --> 02:29:59.920 healthy environment improving air 02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:02.399 quality and creating safe opportunities 02:30:02.479 --> 02:30:05.319 we want to continue doing that um with 02:30:05.399 --> 02:30:07.479 our separated bike Network we want to 02:30:07.559 --> 02:30:09.959 then connect it up with the surrounding 02:30:10.040 --> 02:30:12.600 uh cils so that we have a metropolitan 02:30:12.680 --> 02:30:16.760 wide um safe healthy uh trans transport 02:30:16.840 --> 02:30:19.559 option compared with with with the Carr 02:30:19.639 --> 02:30:23.920 and um and and we have dramatic increase 02:30:24.000 --> 02:30:27.120 in usage on our our bite Network since 02:30:27.200 --> 02:30:28.879 we first started doing the counts back 02:30:28.959 --> 02:30:31.680 in 2010 so um to say anything else is 02:30:31.760 --> 02:30:35.280 really def is to is denying the facts 02:30:35.360 --> 02:30:36.799 that you could see when you walk out 02:30:36.879 --> 02:30:39.959 into uh into the City and no George 02:30:40.040 --> 02:30:43.479 Street is is not a um a a street that 02:30:43.559 --> 02:30:46.920 we've promoted um cycling on but 02:30:47.000 --> 02:30:49.719 adjacent Kent Street is and Castle Ray 02:30:49.799 --> 02:30:51.520 Street and pit Street and the numbers in 02:30:51.600 --> 02:30:53.879 pit Street have gone up uh hugely in the 02:30:53.959 --> 02:30:56.120 last couple of years so it it is a 02:30:56.200 --> 02:30:58.440 planed Network it is providing safety 02:30:58.520 --> 02:31:01.040 for people in this um alternative 02:31:01.120 --> 02:31:03.200 transport option that it that is helping 02:31:03.280 --> 02:31:05.000 us reduce emissions in the city and it's 02:31:05.079 --> 02:31:07.280 a very very good thing for the city and 02:31:07.360 --> 02:31:09.760 I think what council Chan has moved is 02:31:09.840 --> 02:31:12.079 creating a again a safe option it's not 02:31:12.159 --> 02:31:13.760 safe for scooters to be on the road 02:31:13.840 --> 02:31:15.639 because they could be injured by Carrs 02:31:15.719 --> 02:31:18.280 and I know pedestrians who would don't 02:31:18.360 --> 02:31:20.239 like to share the foot path would be 02:31:20.319 --> 02:31:21.879 very concerned about sharing the 02:31:21.959 --> 02:31:23.879 footpath with the speed at which 02:31:23.959 --> 02:31:27.799 electric scooters um get around so this 02:31:27.879 --> 02:31:30.520 has been problems in other cities uh and 02:31:30.600 --> 02:31:33.319 um providing us a safer alternative for 02:31:33.399 --> 02:31:35.040 them on the separated cycleway is a much 02:31:35.120 --> 02:31:37.559 better option and as others have said 02:31:37.639 --> 02:31:39.760 the city of Sydney is not like the ilara 02:31:39.840 --> 02:31:42.600 is not like Wen gong um and it is a much 02:31:42.680 --> 02:31:44.799 more congested area and the wonderful 02:31:44.879 --> 02:31:46.600 thing about it is all this fantastic 02:31:46.680 --> 02:31:48.840 work we've done in the city means that 02:31:48.920 --> 02:31:51.559 huge number huge increases of numbers of 02:31:51.639 --> 02:31:54.360 pedestrians in the city post Co City's 02:31:54.440 --> 02:31:56.559 really come alive again and um the 02:31:56.639 --> 02:31:58.399 economy is really thriving because of 02:31:58.479 --> 02:32:01.040 that and um and I think there's a real 02:32:01.120 --> 02:32:02.559 celebration of what we've been able to 02:32:02.639 --> 02:32:04.559 do here in George Street and in our 02:32:04.639 --> 02:32:08.399 other streets so I strongly support um 02:32:08.479 --> 02:32:10.840 Council Chan's 02:32:10.920 --> 02:32:12.799 Amendment I'll put the amendment all 02:32:12.879 --> 02:32:15.200 those in favor say 02:32:15.280 --> 02:32:18.280 I 02:32:19.920 --> 02:32:22.920 sorry those 02:32:24.000 --> 02:32:26.440 against so I'm very happy to use my 02:32:26.520 --> 02:32:28.559 casting vote to support the 02:32:28.639 --> 02:32:31.399 amendment I'll put the 02:32:31.479 --> 02:32:34.559 amended amended motion Council chair 02:32:34.639 --> 02:32:37.799 amended motion um can I Lord mayor speak 02:32:37.879 --> 02:32:41.600 to the substantive motion yes thank you 02:32:41.680 --> 02:32:44.079 I do want to miss address Council on 02:32:44.159 --> 02:32:45.680 some of the misinformation that has been 02:32:45.760 --> 02:32:47.520 presented to our community about our 02:32:47.600 --> 02:32:49.200 cycleway 02:32:49.280 --> 02:32:51.760 infrastructure I do refute the public 02:32:51.840 --> 02:32:53.920 comments made about our city separated 02:32:54.000 --> 02:32:56.639 cycleway is being un underutilized when 02:32:56.719 --> 02:32:59.280 that couldn't be further from the 02:32:59.360 --> 02:33:02.440 truth cycling is gaining po popularity 02:33:02.520 --> 02:33:04.360 bike trips in the city have more than 02:33:04.440 --> 02:33:05.959 doubled since 02:33:06.040 --> 02:33:10.120 2010 every week day more than 7,000 02:33:10.200 --> 02:33:13.239 people now ride to work in the CBD that 02:33:13.319 --> 02:33:16.200 is equivalent to seven full trains 116 02:33:16.280 --> 02:33:18.920 full buses or 10 lanes of 02:33:19.000 --> 02:33:21.280 traffic think about the Carrbon emissions 02:33:21.360 --> 02:33:24.479 saved there the pit street cycleway is 02:33:24.559 --> 02:33:26.079 also very popular as you've mentioned 02:33:26.159 --> 02:33:28.959 Lord mayor there has been an average of 02:33:29.040 --> 02:33:32.239 1,246 daily rides on the cycleway in 02:33:32.319 --> 02:33:35.600 October and a total of 02:33:35.680 --> 02:33:39.120 7,384 rides during the first week of 02:33:39.200 --> 02:33:41.520 November before we built the cycleway in 02:33:41.600 --> 02:33:44.840 August 2020 there was only an average of 02:33:44.920 --> 02:33:47.719 1,000 weekly bike trips in pit street 02:33:47.799 --> 02:33:50.440 from 1,000 to 02:33:50.520 --> 02:33:53.360 7,300 separated cycleways are a standard 02:33:53.440 --> 02:33:56.079 across the world because they save lives 02:33:56.159 --> 02:33:58.200 and we must create a safe cycling 02:33:58.280 --> 02:34:00.159 Network for those who choose this mode 02:34:00.239 --> 02:34:02.799 of Transport in our Global City but also 02:34:02.879 --> 02:34:04.440 for our e scooter 02:34:04.520 --> 02:34:07.680 riders now councelor Jarrett um in the 02:34:07.760 --> 02:34:10.760 in the motion has also presented how 02:34:10.840 --> 02:34:12.920 this is good for business the city has 02:34:13.000 --> 02:34:15.719 known about this when we have slower 02:34:15.799 --> 02:34:16.959 streets 02:34:17.040 --> 02:34:20.719 when we ensure that there's less room 02:34:20.799 --> 02:34:23.280 for fast Vehicles people actually wander 02:34:23.360 --> 02:34:25.040 around people get off their scooters 02:34:25.120 --> 02:34:26.239 they get off their 02:34:26.319 --> 02:34:28.920 bikes in fact businesses 02:34:29.000 --> 02:34:31.840 along such transformations in terms of 02:34:31.920 --> 02:34:33.719 our public streets have seen increased 02:34:33.799 --> 02:34:36.239 sales increased sales from local small 02:34:36.319 --> 02:34:38.600 businesses have been reported in such 02:34:38.680 --> 02:34:42.079 diversities as our own Sydney Melbourne 02:34:42.159 --> 02:34:45.000 Manhattan San Francisco 02:34:45.079 --> 02:34:46.680 Toronto 02:34:46.760 --> 02:34:50.239 in San Francisco in fencia Street where 02:34:50.319 --> 02:34:52.479 this applies to E Scooters and cyclists 02:34:52.559 --> 02:34:55.399 in a separated cycle way traffic lanes 02:34:55.479 --> 02:34:58.079 were slimmed down to slow Carrs to 02:34:58.159 --> 02:35:00.799 accommodate other users on the street 02:35:00.879 --> 02:35:03.959 more than 60% reported an increase in 02:35:04.040 --> 02:35:06.840 the number of customers 2third of 02:35:06.920 --> 02:35:08.719 respondents describe how the increased 02:35:08.799 --> 02:35:12.680 levels of pedestrian and e-mobility 02:35:12.760 --> 02:35:14.920 micromobility including cycling and 02:35:15.000 --> 02:35:17.280 scooters and other streets improved 02:35:17.360 --> 02:35:20.120 business and sales I also want to draw 02:35:20.200 --> 02:35:22.559 the attention of counselors to what 02:35:22.639 --> 02:35:24.760 they've done in Manhattan the first safe 02:35:24.840 --> 02:35:27.360 and separated protected Cycle Way which 02:35:27.440 --> 02:35:30.239 is on 8th and 9th Avenue in 02:35:30.319 --> 02:35:33.520 Manhattan this has in businesses have 02:35:33.600 --> 02:35:36.120 experienced a 49% increase in retail 02:35:36.200 --> 02:35:38.479 sales of local businesses along this 02:35:38.559 --> 02:35:41.319 back Lane this matches up the data that 02:35:41.399 --> 02:35:44.760 has been provided by neuron mobility and 02:35:44.840 --> 02:35:47.319 finally in huton in the Netherlands with 02:35:47.399 --> 02:35:49.719 its high levels of cycling scootering 02:35:49.799 --> 02:35:52.200 and E scootering and walking retail 02:35:52.280 --> 02:35:55.520 turnover has been 2.5 times higher per 02:35:55.600 --> 02:35:58.000 square meter than elsewhere in the 02:35:58.079 --> 02:36:00.399 country again the best option for our 02:36:00.479 --> 02:36:02.920 city for our community is to continue to 02:36:03.000 --> 02:36:06.000 build these safe and separated networks 02:36:06.079 --> 02:36:07.760 and for the new southwales government to 02:36:07.840 --> 02:36:10.079 do so as well so that e scooter riders 02:36:10.159 --> 02:36:12.319 have a safe way to ride that is away 02:36:12.399 --> 02:36:15.040 from pedestrians and vehicular traffic 02:36:15.120 --> 02:36:16.399 we need a sensible 02:36:16.479 --> 02:36:17.959 and comprehensive approach to City 02:36:18.040 --> 02:36:20.120 Transport to ensure people can get into 02:36:20.200 --> 02:36:23.479 and around the CBD conveniently cheaply 02:36:23.559 --> 02:36:26.600 sustainably and 02:36:28.239 --> 02:36:31.040 safely do I have any other speakers on 02:36:31.120 --> 02:36:33.000 the um motions before so I'll put the 02:36:33.079 --> 02:36:36.399 amended motion Council Wen thank you 02:36:36.479 --> 02:36:38.559 just wanted to get some clarification 02:36:38.639 --> 02:36:41.200 you made some generalizations Lord May 02:36:41.280 --> 02:36:43.360 about facts not sure where the facts 02:36:43.440 --> 02:36:45.959 have been obtained from but when we we 02:36:46.040 --> 02:36:48.600 think about how people do move across 02:36:48.680 --> 02:36:51.799 our city and they do utilize both the 02:36:51.879 --> 02:36:53.920 cycle way and the foot paaths and the 02:36:54.000 --> 02:36:57.360 roads um and and we're hearing that Cy 02:36:57.440 --> 02:36:59.639 that the e scoters may be unsafe because 02:36:59.719 --> 02:37:02.360 of the speeds I'm sure that there's uh 02:37:02.440 --> 02:37:04.239 opportunities to be able to limit those 02:37:04.319 --> 02:37:06.200 speeds on how they are used so they can 02:37:06.280 --> 02:37:09.520 be used within uh the cycle ways uh to 02:37:09.600 --> 02:37:11.760 make it more safer but when I actually 02:37:11.840 --> 02:37:14.079 look out across the city and when I do 02:37:14.159 --> 02:37:16.520 walk across our city it isn't safe for 02:37:16.600 --> 02:37:18.559 all even though there is you know some 02:37:18.639 --> 02:37:20.760 data suggesting about an increase around 02:37:20.840 --> 02:37:23.319 the cycleways being used just wondering 02:37:23.399 --> 02:37:26.000 is there some data to clarify what has 02:37:26.079 --> 02:37:27.760 been utilized by yourself here Lord 02:37:27.840 --> 02:37:30.360 mayor and also councelor chair around 02:37:30.440 --> 02:37:32.399 has there been a reduction and do you 02:37:32.479 --> 02:37:34.799 have the same data for the Carr usage and 02:37:34.879 --> 02:37:37.200 Po and potentially the pedestrians that 02:37:37.280 --> 02:37:39.559 actually walk because the cycle ways are 02:37:39.639 --> 02:37:42.760 not safe I actually have been told by 02:37:42.840 --> 02:37:45.000 many cyclists so this is not from ion 02:37:45.079 --> 02:37:46.879 world and this is from cyclist 02:37:46.959 --> 02:37:48.760 themselves that actually find that the 02:37:48.840 --> 02:37:51.079 cycle ways are unsafe and they will 02:37:51.159 --> 02:37:54.520 continue to use the roads because of 02:37:54.600 --> 02:37:57.000 that safety Factor but if we're worried 02:37:57.079 --> 02:37:59.840 about es scooters being at a particular 02:37:59.920 --> 02:38:04.159 speed um some cyclists actually uh go at 02:38:04.239 --> 02:38:06.840 speeds that are far greater than the 02:38:06.920 --> 02:38:09.399 Carrs but there are opportunities when it 02:38:09.479 --> 02:38:11.719 comes to E Scooters and I have used E 02:38:11.799 --> 02:38:15.959 Scooters in both cber in Darwin and also 02:38:16.040 --> 02:38:18.239 in Melbourne and they haven't all been 02:38:18.319 --> 02:38:20.239 on a cycle way there are restrictions 02:38:20.319 --> 02:38:22.319 how you can place that where they are 02:38:22.399 --> 02:38:24.159 able to be moved and there are also 02:38:24.239 --> 02:38:26.600 restrictions that can be put upon these 02:38:26.680 --> 02:38:28.959 E Scooters to make sure they don't go at 02:38:29.040 --> 02:38:32.319 particular speeds in high activity areas 02:38:32.399 --> 02:38:34.639 we keep talking about how what's 02:38:34.719 --> 02:38:36.879 happening across the globe in some 02:38:36.959 --> 02:38:38.840 cities but we actually don't want to 02:38:38.920 --> 02:38:41.319 talk about what is possible in this city 02:38:41.399 --> 02:38:43.159 and it's some of those opportunities 02:38:43.239 --> 02:38:44.840 that we should be able to access when it 02:38:44.920 --> 02:38:46.760 comes to East good is in a trial for the 02:38:46.840 --> 02:38:50.079 CBD or even for our whole LGA but start 02:38:50.159 --> 02:38:51.639 to actually look at how you can make 02:38:51.719 --> 02:38:53.000 things happen rather than how you 02:38:53.079 --> 02:38:55.760 continue to make they make sure they 02:38:55.840 --> 02:38:59.520 don't um CEO might give us some 02:38:59.600 --> 02:39:01.680 information what I was going to say is I 02:39:01.760 --> 02:39:03.840 think we could get a c update just on 02:39:03.920 --> 02:39:06.479 the volumes of Carrs and pests and those 02:39:06.559 --> 02:39:08.120 other things so we could just summarize 02:39:08.200 --> 02:39:11.639 the data that we have um Mr woodrey you 02:39:11.719 --> 02:39:12.959 would be that would be best to get it 02:39:13.040 --> 02:39:15.760 all written out rather than to yeah okay 02:39:15.840 --> 02:39:18.360 do that thanks we we collect data and 02:39:18.440 --> 02:39:20.760 we've collected data for the period in 02:39:20.840 --> 02:39:22.239 which we've been building the separated 02:39:22.319 --> 02:39:24.799 cycle way so we have all those 02:39:24.879 --> 02:39:26.760 figures all right I'll put the amended 02:39:26.840 --> 02:39:31.120 motion to you all those in favor say 02:39:31.200 --> 02:39:33.680 I those 02:39:33.760 --> 02:39:36.000 against declare it Carrried to pass from 02:39:36.079 --> 02:39:38.440 councelor 02:39:39.879 --> 02:39:42.959 Wen item 15.4 Community recognition 02:39:43.040 --> 02:39:44.559 statement Zebra 02:39:44.639 --> 02:39:47.319 Lounge 02:39:47.399 --> 02:39:48.840 Council gon thank you little May I'd 02:39:48.920 --> 02:39:50.440 just like to move the notice of motion I 02:39:50.520 --> 02:39:54.079 won't speak to it okay right 02:39:54.159 --> 02:39:56.959 okay so we've got a 02:39:57.040 --> 02:39:59.440 seconder council Jared I'll put the 02:39:59.520 --> 02:40:02.200 motion to you all those in favor say I 02:40:02.280 --> 02:40:03.559 those 02:40:03.639 --> 02:40:05.680 against uh thank you Lord mayor I'm 02:40:05.760 --> 02:40:06.959 abstaining which I understand will be 02:40:07.040 --> 02:40:08.680 taken as a vote 02:40:08.760 --> 02:40:11.239 against so that's unanimous apart from 02:40:11.319 --> 02:40:13.639 councelor 02:40:14.559 --> 02:40:17.600 elore item 15.5 Council submission to 02:40:17.680 --> 02:40:19.000 the Explorer Street public housing 02:40:19.079 --> 02:40:20.319 resoning 02:40:20.399 --> 02:40:23.200 proposal thank you Lord mayor um I've 02:40:23.280 --> 02:40:25.280 got two items left on the agenda but I 02:40:25.360 --> 02:40:26.879 know that we've had a I'd like to move a 02:40:26.959 --> 02:40:29.239 procedural motion that we um move 02:40:29.319 --> 02:40:32.120 forward it item 15.6 for where we have a 02:40:32.200 --> 02:40:33.680 number of interested people in the 02:40:33.760 --> 02:40:35.000 audience who have been waiting very 02:40:35.079 --> 02:40:36.440 patiently so that they don't need to 02:40:36.520 --> 02:40:38.799 wait any longer I'm happy to if um I can 02:40:38.879 --> 02:40:40.799 get a second a move that we consider 02:40:40.879 --> 02:40:43.520 item 15.6 now and then we just consider 02:40:43.600 --> 02:40:46.200 my items after that okay so so um that's 02:40:46.280 --> 02:40:48.319 seconded by Council Scott so I'll move a 02:40:48.399 --> 02:40:51.879 procedural motion that we deal with item 02:40:51.959 --> 02:40:54.440 15.6 um that's been moved and seconded 02:40:54.520 --> 02:40:56.239 I'll put that to you all in favor say I 02:40:56.319 --> 02:40:58.600 those against declare it Carrried um 02:40:58.680 --> 02:40:59.840 councilor 02:40:59.920 --> 02:41:02.120 Scott thanks very much councelor Ellmore 02:41:02.200 --> 02:41:04.440 and thank you to the very very patient 02:41:04.520 --> 02:41:06.760 um people in red who've waited so 02:41:06.840 --> 02:41:09.440 patiently for this tonight um I would 02:41:09.520 --> 02:41:11.000 like to in particular Lord mayor 02:41:11.079 --> 02:41:13.399 acknowledge Julie Bates AO who I know is 02:41:13.479 --> 02:41:15.440 watching online and also the artist 02:41:15.520 --> 02:41:17.840 Louis May who cannot be here because she 02:41:17.920 --> 02:41:20.000 lives quite a long way away but who have 02:41:20.079 --> 02:41:22.079 been since the very beginning such 02:41:22.159 --> 02:41:24.360 passionate supporters of this project 02:41:24.440 --> 02:41:26.920 and I'd also of course like to um 02:41:27.000 --> 02:41:28.920 acknowledge the many other people who've 02:41:29.000 --> 02:41:30.360 come along today we've got a member of 02:41:30.440 --> 02:41:32.719 our disability advisory panel nushka and 02:41:32.799 --> 02:41:34.879 so many others thank you so much for all 02:41:34.959 --> 02:41:36.840 the commitment and work you've put into 02:41:36.920 --> 02:41:39.280 this uh I've spoken before and it's no 02:41:39.360 --> 02:41:41.280 secret about My Views about the absolute 02:41:41.360 --> 02:41:43.479 dir of representation of women in 02:41:43.559 --> 02:41:46.559 Sydney's public spaces we need more 02:41:46.639 --> 02:41:49.120 statues and public artwork to reflect 02:41:49.200 --> 02:41:51.600 the diversity of our community and we 02:41:51.680 --> 02:41:54.479 need to keep and restore those very few 02:41:54.559 --> 02:41:56.959 that we have which is why this motion 02:41:57.040 --> 02:41:59.920 calls for a return of one such statue a 02:42:00.000 --> 02:42:02.799 statue called Joe for a very brief 02:42:02.879 --> 02:42:04.959 moment in the 1990s the corner of 02:42:05.040 --> 02:42:06.280 Stanley and yurong streets in 02:42:06.360 --> 02:42:08.639 darlinghurst held a statue of a woman 02:42:08.719 --> 02:42:10.840 that was unique in the world and very 02:42:10.920 --> 02:42:12.639 specific to the neighborhood and our 02:42:12.719 --> 02:42:15.399 history Joy was in fact the world's 02:42:15.479 --> 02:42:18.239 first statue of a sex worker she was 02:42:18.319 --> 02:42:20.639 created by sculptor Louie Fraser as a 02:42:20.719 --> 02:42:22.719 tribute to women and to the history of 02:42:22.799 --> 02:42:26.239 East Sydney but was relocated to mCarri 02:42:26.319 --> 02:42:29.079 University East Sydney wants and should 02:42:29.159 --> 02:42:32.120 have joy back indeed hundreds and 02:42:32.200 --> 02:42:33.639 hundreds of local residents and 02:42:33.719 --> 02:42:35.959 businesses have signed a petition 02:42:36.040 --> 02:42:39.079 calling for her to be returned a range 02:42:39.159 --> 02:42:41.360 of other important stakeholders have 02:42:41.440 --> 02:42:43.719 supported her return including the 02:42:43.799 --> 02:42:45.600 Catholic healthc Carre community who 02:42:45.680 --> 02:42:48.559 provide a wonderful aged Carre Facility 02:42:48.639 --> 02:42:52.000 opposite the restoration service Joy is 02:42:52.079 --> 02:42:53.959 an important part of the history of our 02:42:54.040 --> 02:42:56.600 city just as sex workers that she 02:42:56.680 --> 02:42:58.600 represents are an important part of the 02:42:58.680 --> 02:43:01.239 history of East Sydney New South Wales 02:43:01.319 --> 02:43:02.680 was of course the world's first 02:43:02.760 --> 02:43:05.280 jurisdiction to decriminalize sex work 02:43:05.360 --> 02:43:08.280 under former labor Premier Bob Carrr 02:43:08.360 --> 02:43:09.959 allowing for stronger health and safety 02:43:10.040 --> 02:43:11.879 outcomes for Professionals in the sex 02:43:11.959 --> 02:43:14.000 work industry and protecting against 02:43:14.079 --> 02:43:16.840 illegal sex traffi King I don't need to 02:43:16.920 --> 02:43:18.840 tell the Lord mayor about the former s 02:43:18.920 --> 02:43:21.000 South Sydney council's reforms that led 02:43:21.079 --> 02:43:23.440 the world in changing regulation to 02:43:23.520 --> 02:43:25.360 ensure planning compliance for sex 02:43:25.440 --> 02:43:28.959 worker premises and creating safer legal 02:43:29.040 --> 02:43:31.840 working environments for sex workers 02:43:31.920 --> 02:43:33.719 these world-leading achievements came 02:43:33.799 --> 02:43:36.159 about through the determined advocacy of 02:43:36.239 --> 02:43:38.360 sex workers who showed tremendous 02:43:38.440 --> 02:43:41.000 strength in their campaigning Joy 02:43:41.079 --> 02:43:43.040 represents that strength and the women 02:43:43.120 --> 02:43:44.719 who fought for their safety and their 02:43:44.799 --> 02:43:46.799 dignity and their rights at a time when 02:43:46.879 --> 02:43:48.840 they were heavily stigmatized for their 02:43:48.920 --> 02:43:52.159 work she's wanted back by residents and 02:43:52.239 --> 02:43:55.159 stakeholders around the importance of 02:43:55.239 --> 02:43:59.040 this original site the uh Joy restoring 02:43:59.120 --> 02:44:01.360 Joy is deserved by the women past and 02:44:01.440 --> 02:44:03.959 present who played such an important 02:44:04.040 --> 02:44:07.200 role in creating Sydney's history and 02:44:07.280 --> 02:44:09.319 for Fighting For Better rights for sex 02:44:09.399 --> 02:44:12.159 workers Lord mayor it's uh really 02:44:12.239 --> 02:44:14.000 exciting to also be able to share with 02:44:14.079 --> 02:44:16.239 the council that the ABC has 02:44:16.319 --> 02:44:18.479 commissioned Compass to create a 02:44:18.559 --> 02:44:21.200 documentary about the story of joy and 02:44:21.280 --> 02:44:23.120 we hope if the council resolves so 02:44:23.200 --> 02:44:25.600 tonight the journey to bring her home 02:44:25.680 --> 02:44:28.520 it's an incredible story uh I know uh 02:44:28.600 --> 02:44:31.639 the story of the artist in particular uh 02:44:31.719 --> 02:44:34.200 of the vandalism that occurred to the 02:44:34.280 --> 02:44:37.479 Statue uh is just waiting to be told and 02:44:37.559 --> 02:44:40.120 I'm sure uh audiences will be so excited 02:44:40.200 --> 02:44:43.760 to see it uh I have been asked by the uh 02:44:43.840 --> 02:44:45.799 uh artist who cannot be here although I 02:44:45.879 --> 02:44:48.399 know she's watching to just read out um 02:44:48.479 --> 02:44:51.479 one further statement because um uh 02:44:51.559 --> 02:44:54.440 there's some discussion to come uh the 02:44:54.520 --> 02:44:57.319 artist Lou May has asked me to pass on 02:44:57.399 --> 02:44:59.440 that the artist's main concern is that 02:44:59.520 --> 02:45:01.680 the material of the original version of 02:45:01.760 --> 02:45:04.000 Joy being of course concrete and marble 02:45:04.079 --> 02:45:07.000 dust mix is not suitable for a permanent 02:45:07.079 --> 02:45:10.040 piece of art back in this position uh in 02:45:10.120 --> 02:45:12.639 the space of 18 months the original Joy 02:45:12.719 --> 02:45:15.079 statue as again I'm sure councelor is 02:45:15.159 --> 02:45:17.399 would be aware was vandalized to the 02:45:17.479 --> 02:45:20.479 point of needing uh major repairs three 02:45:20.559 --> 02:45:23.479 times even if restored the statue would 02:45:23.559 --> 02:45:25.719 still be concrete and if reinforced from 02:45:25.799 --> 02:45:28.000 the outside she can be attacked too 02:45:28.079 --> 02:45:31.200 easily um and so uh in the long run the 02:45:31.280 --> 02:45:34.680 cost would be much higher to um uh 02:45:34.760 --> 02:45:37.159 simply restore joy in her original 02:45:37.239 --> 02:45:39.200 position rather than proceeding with the 02:45:39.280 --> 02:45:42.719 recommended bronze cast of Joy um and 02:45:42.799 --> 02:45:44.159 she's asked me to pass on that the 02:45:44.239 --> 02:45:46.879 bronze Edition will be an important uh 02:45:46.959 --> 02:45:49.479 an exact replica of the original and 02:45:49.559 --> 02:45:52.200 that this is the artist wishes Lord 02:45:52.280 --> 02:45:54.239 mayor as the motion states uh I've 02:45:54.319 --> 02:45:56.520 spoken with MCC University they're very 02:45:56.600 --> 02:46:00.239 supportive to loan uh the current statue 02:46:00.319 --> 02:46:03.079 of joy that is um the marble and 02:46:03.159 --> 02:46:05.639 concrete statue if the city should 02:46:05.719 --> 02:46:08.600 approve this resolution so that we can 02:46:08.680 --> 02:46:11.159 uh create a bronze version uh and that 02:46:11.239 --> 02:46:13.319 we've not yet come across a Community 02:46:13.399 --> 02:46:16.520 member a business uh for a stakeholder 02:46:16.600 --> 02:46:18.799 who's not prepared to strongly voice 02:46:18.879 --> 02:46:21.360 their support for restoring this really 02:46:21.440 --> 02:46:24.479 important statue uh of an incredible 02:46:24.559 --> 02:46:26.959 woman who represents such an important 02:46:27.040 --> 02:46:29.879 part of the history of e Sydney back to 02:46:29.959 --> 02:46:32.360 the plin that is still there that has 02:46:32.440 --> 02:46:35.280 not moved uh and is ready and waiting 02:46:35.360 --> 02:46:37.760 for joy to be restored in this very 02:46:37.840 --> 02:46:40.719 important part of Sydney so uh I endorse 02:46:40.799 --> 02:46:42.719 the recommendation and encourage you to 02:46:42.799 --> 02:46:43.920 support 02:46:44.000 --> 02:46:47.559 it so do we have 02:46:47.639 --> 02:46:51.479 a do we have a seconder um Council 02:46:51.559 --> 02:46:55.079 illmore seconding it um 02:46:55.159 --> 02:46:57.159 speakers councelor J did you have your 02:46:57.239 --> 02:46:58.959 hand up to 02:46:59.040 --> 02:47:03.840 speak okay do we have speakers Council 02:47:03.920 --> 02:47:07.239 Walling um thank you councilor Scott for 02:47:07.319 --> 02:47:10.399 this joyous motion um it's a very small 02:47:10.479 --> 02:47:12.239 world in the last in the first few weeks 02:47:12.319 --> 02:47:14.079 of joining Council my sister who lives 02:47:14.159 --> 02:47:16.959 in Bangalore sent me the history of Joy 02:47:17.040 --> 02:47:19.520 it just so happens she's the Carrer for 02:47:19.600 --> 02:47:21.840 Louis Fraser or as my sister knows her 02:47:21.920 --> 02:47:23.440 as Dorothy 02:47:23.520 --> 02:47:25.959 May for decades I've walked past the 02:47:26.040 --> 02:47:27.959 eurong Stanley Street location and 02:47:28.040 --> 02:47:29.479 always noticed the plinth base but 02:47:29.559 --> 02:47:31.799 wonder why there was no artwork on it 02:47:31.879 --> 02:47:33.000 mystery 02:47:33.079 --> 02:47:35.799 solved bringing Joy back to e Sydney or 02:47:35.879 --> 02:47:38.079 a version of The Statue as councelor 02:47:38.159 --> 02:47:40.920 Scott's motion also suggest does have 02:47:41.000 --> 02:47:42.719 its 02:47:42.799 --> 02:47:45.159 challenges um but listening think you 02:47:45.239 --> 02:47:48.040 know I I was very much pushing towards 02:47:48.120 --> 02:47:52.360 uh in this to uh only settle for the 02:47:52.440 --> 02:47:54.680 original back in the place um it's 02:47:54.760 --> 02:47:57.600 interesting to hear that um from your 02:47:57.680 --> 02:48:00.280 notes that uh the university doesn't 02:48:00.360 --> 02:48:02.479 believe that it's in a or the artist 02:48:02.559 --> 02:48:05.159 doesn't believe it's in a position to be 02:48:05.239 --> 02:48:06.760 uh reinstated 02:48:06.840 --> 02:48:09.600 so I still would like uh for us to 02:48:09.680 --> 02:48:11.479 inquire with the university on an 02:48:11.559 --> 02:48:14.360 official level um just to inquire is is 02:48:14.440 --> 02:48:16.760 the act statue available to come back to 02:48:16.840 --> 02:48:21.920 the place um and if not um then I think 02:48:22.000 --> 02:48:25.440 we should look at um potentially a 02:48:25.520 --> 02:48:28.079 replica but I think what we also have to 02:48:28.159 --> 02:48:32.000 un you know uh understand is 02:48:32.079 --> 02:48:35.639 that the that um the city would want to 02:48:35.719 --> 02:48:38.440 ensure sorry that the city would want to 02:48:38.520 --> 02:48:40.159 ensure all artwork in the public domain 02:48:40.239 --> 02:48:42.159 is Thoroughly considered it's why we 02:48:42.239 --> 02:48:44.959 have the city's public art policy public 02:48:45.040 --> 02:48:46.959 he acquisition guidelines and other 02:48:47.040 --> 02:48:50.559 procedural policies and procedures so 02:48:50.639 --> 02:48:52.920 you know I would love to see Joy back in 02:48:53.000 --> 02:48:55.879 Sydney there is no doubt about that um 02:48:55.959 --> 02:48:58.120 and uh I look forward to the next steps 02:48:58.200 --> 02:48:59.680 thank 02:48:59.760 --> 02:49:04.680 you sorry um do I have other 02:49:04.760 --> 02:49:08.040 speakers coun just very briefly I'm very 02:49:08.120 --> 02:49:09.799 happy to support this motion I wasn't 02:49:09.879 --> 02:49:12.280 aware of the um history of Joy but I 02:49:12.360 --> 02:49:13.799 think it's fantastic we've talked a bit 02:49:13.879 --> 02:49:15.399 on this Council about 02:49:15.479 --> 02:49:17.799 how we need to start um really 02:49:17.879 --> 02:49:20.319 addressing the social history of what 02:49:20.399 --> 02:49:22.000 our streets really are and who has lived 02:49:22.079 --> 02:49:23.719 in our city the stories that are often 02:49:23.799 --> 02:49:27.239 Untold um sex workers in in Sydney have 02:49:27.319 --> 02:49:29.639 this incredible history in East Sydney U 02:49:29.719 --> 02:49:31.959 not least of which helping to um put at 02:49:32.040 --> 02:49:36.360 Great personal cost um have I how do I 02:49:36.440 --> 02:49:37.719 put this I was talked about the police 02:49:37.799 --> 02:49:38.559 so much tonight I was about to say 02:49:38.639 --> 02:49:39.719 something really rude but I'm just going 02:49:39.799 --> 02:49:41.959 to um in relation to the corruption that 02:49:42.040 --> 02:49:43.959 existed um sex workers played a really 02:49:44.040 --> 02:49:45.639 important leading role in exposing that 02:49:45.719 --> 02:49:48.159 in the police and um in a historic way 02:49:48.239 --> 02:49:50.440 at Great personal cost full respect I 02:49:50.520 --> 02:49:52.440 think this is a great thing and I think 02:49:52.520 --> 02:49:54.600 it will inspire more conversations about 02:49:54.680 --> 02:49:56.120 the really important role that sex 02:49:56.200 --> 02:49:58.079 workers have played in our community and 02:49:58.159 --> 02:50:00.920 making our community stronger 02:50:01.000 --> 02:50:03.120 thanks 02:50:03.200 --> 02:50:07.280 so you have spoken on your 02:50:07.360 --> 02:50:09.799 Amendment sorry I just meant to say that 02:50:09.879 --> 02:50:13.360 um uh I'm supportive of my amendments to 02:50:13.440 --> 02:50:16.200 this uh motion your Amendment so we're 02:50:16.280 --> 02:50:18.559 dealing with your Amendment 02:50:18.639 --> 02:50:20.639 now um 02:50:20.719 --> 02:50:23.280 so so Lord we want to Second for the 02:50:23.360 --> 02:50:25.440 amendment Deputy Lord may have you do 02:50:25.520 --> 02:50:28.760 that thanks Lord mayor um as I um so are 02:50:28.840 --> 02:50:31.159 we still dealing with the amendment C SC 02:50:31.239 --> 02:50:35.040 as I um U emailed counselors uh I'm 02:50:35.120 --> 02:50:36.840 supportive of the amendment Lord mayor 02:50:36.920 --> 02:50:38.440 with the exception that I think it is 02:50:38.520 --> 02:50:41.159 important to retain the final three 02:50:41.239 --> 02:50:43.319 points so that is to consult with the 02:50:43.399 --> 02:50:45.920 city's East Sydney community and as 02:50:46.000 --> 02:50:48.280 Council Walling has outlined the public 02:50:48.360 --> 02:50:50.600 art advisory panel on the best way to 02:50:50.680 --> 02:50:53.440 reinstate the statue of joy to Stanley 02:50:53.520 --> 02:50:55.799 Street and yurong streets to provide 02:50:55.879 --> 02:50:59.600 funding in the 2023 24 CEO contingency 02:50:59.680 --> 02:51:02.799 fund for a bronze reproduction of joy 02:51:02.879 --> 02:51:04.920 and required work and Lord May I'm happy 02:51:05.000 --> 02:51:07.000 to add there in line with the artist's 02:51:07.079 --> 02:51:09.479 wishes and then Lord May the final 02:51:09.559 --> 02:51:12.799 section reinstate a bronze uh like we 02:51:12.879 --> 02:51:14.520 can just say sculpture of the his 02:51:14.600 --> 02:51:17.040 historic statue of Joy with frame to the 02:51:17.120 --> 02:51:18.920 corner of Stanley and yurong streets 02:51:19.000 --> 02:51:20.799 with a historical plaque outlining the 02:51:20.879 --> 02:51:22.959 history of these Works to the city of 02:51:23.040 --> 02:51:25.239 Sydney Lord may I don't believe that 02:51:25.319 --> 02:51:27.200 these three additional points which were 02:51:27.280 --> 02:51:29.760 in the original motion are inconsistent 02:51:29.840 --> 02:51:32.040 with the uh Amendment there's still the 02:51:32.120 --> 02:51:34.000 opportunity for the city to have a 02:51:34.079 --> 02:51:36.120 conversation with MC University about 02:51:36.200 --> 02:51:38.840 the ownership of the uh concrete and 02:51:38.920 --> 02:51:41.600 marble sculpture uh but I think what is 02:51:41.680 --> 02:51:43.840 important is that the council respect 02:51:43.920 --> 02:51:47.799 the artists wishes and that is that a um 02:51:47.879 --> 02:51:52.040 bronze version of that be 02:51:52.120 --> 02:51:53.920 reinstated uh and I think that it's 02:51:54.000 --> 02:51:56.200 important to indicate that however the 02:51:56.280 --> 02:51:58.680 discussions proceed with MC University 02:51:58.760 --> 02:52:01.200 and uh I understand and respect 02:52:01.280 --> 02:52:03.920 councilor Wallings uh desire for those 02:52:04.000 --> 02:52:05.920 discussions to happen I'm I'm not 02:52:06.000 --> 02:52:10.079 unhappy with that um but that the um 02:52:10.159 --> 02:52:13.840 decision tonight be made that the you 02:52:13.920 --> 02:52:17.360 know rest duration of the sculpture will 02:52:17.440 --> 02:52:20.920 um occur you know irrespective of those 02:52:21.000 --> 02:52:23.440 discussions so I think the amendment is 02:52:23.520 --> 02:52:25.360 a good one I welcome the additional 02:52:25.440 --> 02:52:27.719 information uh as long as those three 02:52:27.799 --> 02:52:30.920 final points are 02:52:31.000 --> 02:52:33.280 retained so I I think it's important 02:52:33.360 --> 02:52:37.120 that you retain those parts of the 02:52:37.200 --> 02:52:40.479 amendment I 02:52:40.559 --> 02:52:46.000 do retain those yes 02:52:46.079 --> 02:52:49.040 no I mean we we have a public art policy 02:52:49.120 --> 02:52:51.120 we put everyone every other artist that 02:52:51.200 --> 02:52:53.440 comes to the the city and says I want to 02:52:53.520 --> 02:52:55.000 do I want to put a piece of sculpture 02:52:55.079 --> 02:52:58.159 somewhere we we take it to our our our 02:52:58.239 --> 02:53:03.399 art panel um if we didn't we'd have um I 02:53:03.479 --> 02:53:04.920 won't say what we what it would be like 02:53:05.000 --> 02:53:09.479 if we didn't have that policy um and and 02:53:09.559 --> 02:53:12.319 and I and I think going through those 02:53:12.399 --> 02:53:15.719 those those steps is the proper way is 02:53:15.799 --> 02:53:19.639 is um a proper way of doing this I'd 02:53:19.719 --> 02:53:21.719 like to say I was I was in I was a 02:53:21.799 --> 02:53:23.120 member for the local area during the 02:53:23.200 --> 02:53:24.079 '90s 02:53:24.159 --> 02:53:27.680 I was the on the receiving end of the 02:53:27.760 --> 02:53:29.319 distress but of a whole lot of people 02:53:29.399 --> 02:53:32.000 that lived in the air at the time um and 02:53:32.079 --> 02:53:33.600 it wasn't the sex workers that were 02:53:33.680 --> 02:53:35.399 causing that but it was the associated 02:53:35.479 --> 02:53:37.639 activity that happened around you that 02:53:37.719 --> 02:53:40.000 um really caused amazing distress to a 02:53:40.079 --> 02:53:41.639 lot of people now those people might 02:53:41.719 --> 02:53:43.760 have moved on or not be around and we're 02:53:43.840 --> 02:53:45.840 in a different era but there is a 02:53:45.920 --> 02:53:47.680 history there and I think it's important 02:53:47.760 --> 02:53:49.280 we talk to that community and they might 02:53:49.360 --> 02:53:51.280 might all be very supportive and that's 02:53:51.360 --> 02:53:53.719 fine I personally liked the statue of 02:53:53.799 --> 02:53:56.000 Joy when she was there um that was my 02:53:56.079 --> 02:53:59.079 personal view I I didn't um propagate 02:53:59.159 --> 02:54:00.879 that to this distressed community that 02:54:00.959 --> 02:54:02.719 was just my personal artistic view at 02:54:02.799 --> 02:54:06.120 the time um but I very strongly 02:54:06.200 --> 02:54:07.760 supported the reform of disorderly 02:54:07.840 --> 02:54:09.600 houses act which was about legalizing 02:54:09.680 --> 02:54:12.239 brothel and and supported in every way I 02:54:12.319 --> 02:54:15.239 could sex workers um 02:54:15.319 --> 02:54:18.479 uh when they were Trans in early days 02:54:18.559 --> 02:54:21.280 and and and later on but I've got to say 02:54:21.360 --> 02:54:22.520 it was a 02:54:22.600 --> 02:54:27.520 real um tight rope because you had 02:54:27.600 --> 02:54:29.319 people working on the street and you had 02:54:29.399 --> 02:54:30.920 associate activity and you had a very 02:54:31.000 --> 02:54:32.959 distressed community and trying to 02:54:33.040 --> 02:54:36.280 manage that as a local member um was 02:54:36.360 --> 02:54:38.319 sometimes very very fraud very very 02:54:38.399 --> 02:54:40.719 fraud meetings and a lot of distress 02:54:40.799 --> 02:54:43.360 going on so there I have lots of 02:54:43.440 --> 02:54:47.000 memories of all of this this um and um 02:54:47.079 --> 02:54:48.799 and and it sort of collided to with the 02:54:48.879 --> 02:54:51.360 heroin epidemic and the AIDS epidemic 02:54:51.440 --> 02:54:52.799 all these things going on in the area 02:54:52.879 --> 02:54:55.319 during the '90s it was quite a time 02:54:55.399 --> 02:54:57.719 actually for the area um and I was a 02:54:57.799 --> 02:55:00.680 local member dealing with all of that um 02:55:00.760 --> 02:55:03.600 and um I think it's really important 02:55:03.680 --> 02:55:05.079 that we have that 02:55:05.159 --> 02:55:07.159 consultation with with with the people 02:55:07.239 --> 02:55:10.000 that live there now um they might all be 02:55:10.079 --> 02:55:13.319 very happy to see Joy returned um or 02:55:13.399 --> 02:55:14.600 they might have a different and I think 02:55:14.680 --> 02:55:16.879 it's incumbent upon us to talk to them 02:55:16.959 --> 02:55:18.280 because they were very distressed about 02:55:18.360 --> 02:55:20.520 it at at the time and they took actions 02:55:20.600 --> 02:55:22.319 that they shouldn't have taken in 02:55:22.399 --> 02:55:24.840 defacing public art which is what they 02:55:24.920 --> 02:55:27.360 did which I often think when people do 02:55:27.440 --> 02:55:30.639 that it indicates that they're very um 02:55:30.719 --> 02:55:31.479 very 02:55:31.559 --> 02:55:34.600 distraught and and not and not feeling 02:55:34.680 --> 02:55:37.840 listened to um and and that's not 02:55:37.920 --> 02:55:41.719 something I I I in any way endorse but 02:55:41.799 --> 02:55:44.399 that that's how humans behav in this 02:55:44.479 --> 02:55:47.360 sometimes in these very fraud situations 02:55:47.440 --> 02:55:51.360 so can you just remind me where we're 02:55:51.440 --> 02:55:54.680 atoun okay so we're dealing with Council 02:55:54.760 --> 02:55:56.559 Wallings Amendment do I have any other 02:55:56.639 --> 02:55:58.799 speakers on Council Wallings Amendment 02:55:58.879 --> 02:56:01.520 Lord may can I just clarify 02:56:01.600 --> 02:56:04.000 then what is being moved it's the 02:56:04.079 --> 02:56:05.719 original Amendment which original 02:56:05.799 --> 02:56:09.200 Amendment which deletes the 02:56:09.280 --> 02:56:12.040 um reinstatement of the statute and the 02:56:12.120 --> 02:56:13.639 consultation with the community and the 02:56:13.719 --> 02:56:15.799 public advisory panel and the 02:56:15.879 --> 02:56:17.840 reinstatement of a bronze statute that's 02:56:17.920 --> 02:56:18.920 what that's 02:56:19.000 --> 02:56:22.200 deleting um council warling is 02:56:22.280 --> 02:56:25.200 is yeah um we're absolutely keeping the 02:56:25.280 --> 02:56:26.639 outcomes of broader Community 02:56:26.719 --> 02:56:30.200 consultation on the pro on the 02:56:30.959 --> 02:56:34.600 proposal so 02:56:37.239 --> 02:56:39.280 five well the original amendment has the 02:56:39.360 --> 02:56:40.399 outcomes of a broader Community 02:56:40.479 --> 02:56:43.200 consultation on the proposal so it it it 02:56:43.280 --> 02:56:44.479 does keep that and and I think that's 02:56:44.559 --> 02:56:47.040 absolutely 02:56:48.319 --> 02:56:52.360 vital what 02:57:00.680 --> 02:57:02.719 the I think we're all on the same page 02:57:02.799 --> 02:57:04.360 here we've got many people out tonight 02:57:04.440 --> 02:57:08.600 in support of this and what we're 02:57:08.680 --> 02:57:11.680 proposing just to be clear and this is 02:57:11.760 --> 02:57:13.520 what I'm seeking to retain in the motion 02:57:13.600 --> 02:57:15.399 is to consult the community and the 02:57:15.479 --> 02:57:18.120 public art advisory panel and to 02:57:18.200 --> 02:57:20.520 reinstate the bronze statute which is in 02:57:20.600 --> 02:57:22.639 line with the artist wishes and to 02:57:22.719 --> 02:57:25.360 provide funding for that Lord mayor I'm 02:57:25.440 --> 02:57:28.840 happy to address the differing views if 02:57:28.920 --> 02:57:30.799 you'd like I I obviously wasn't there at 02:57:30.879 --> 02:57:33.559 the time speaking to the amendment when 02:57:33.639 --> 02:57:35.319 the community felt strongly about this 02:57:35.399 --> 02:57:36.920 and I do respect that that is the 02:57:37.000 --> 02:57:38.520 history and it's certainly the history 02:57:38.600 --> 02:57:40.079 that has been passed on to me from the 02:57:40.159 --> 02:57:43.959 artist and others without um going into 02:57:44.040 --> 02:57:48.239 into the length of the story uh the um 02:57:48.319 --> 02:57:50.200 woman who lived across the road from the 02:57:50.280 --> 02:57:51.520 original 02:57:51.600 --> 02:57:54.399 sculpture had a tragic tale Lord May 02:57:54.479 --> 02:57:56.319 which I'm sure you're very familiar with 02:57:56.399 --> 02:57:59.120 um that she went away to attend the 02:57:59.200 --> 02:58:02.760 funeral of her daughter uh who had died 02:58:02.840 --> 02:58:05.799 and came home to find a sculpture at the 02:58:05.879 --> 02:58:08.639 front of her house that she felt was a 02:58:08.719 --> 02:58:11.680 statue of her daughter and she was 02:58:11.760 --> 02:58:16.479 incredibly distressed by that and so uh 02:58:16.559 --> 02:58:21.680 went and uh really significantly damaged 02:58:21.760 --> 02:58:26.200 the sculpture um she was um over the 02:58:26.280 --> 02:58:30.399 years I'm advised um at peace with the 02:58:30.479 --> 02:58:32.799 sculpture uh but found it very difficult 02:58:32.879 --> 02:58:36.360 in confronting having gone away to 02:58:36.440 --> 02:58:38.120 attend the funeral of her daughter and 02:58:38.200 --> 02:58:40.840 came come home to find what she felt was 02:58:40.920 --> 02:58:43.600 a statue of her daughter placed in East 02:58:43.680 --> 02:58:45.479 City so was it a statue of her daughter 02:58:45.559 --> 02:58:48.360 uh well the artist again uh councilor 02:58:48.440 --> 02:58:49.600 Walling and I have had these 02:58:49.680 --> 02:58:52.040 conversations it's quite a tale the 02:58:52.120 --> 02:58:56.000 artist advises um me and I'm sure your 02:58:56.079 --> 02:58:59.120 sister that she uh was doing the statue 02:58:59.200 --> 02:59:01.479 she had real trouble on multiple 02:59:01.559 --> 02:59:04.040 occasions finalizing the statue with a 02:59:04.120 --> 02:59:07.920 face she was uh trying to finalize the 02:59:08.000 --> 02:59:09.520 statue and she had a vision through the 02:59:09.600 --> 02:59:11.159 night of what the face looked like she 02:59:11.239 --> 02:59:13.879 got up and completed the statue with the 02:59:13.959 --> 02:59:17.239 face and it was uh at the same time as 02:59:17.319 --> 02:59:20.479 this woman's daughter died so it is it 02:59:20.559 --> 02:59:23.799 is a it is a incredible piece of art and 02:59:23.879 --> 02:59:28.600 it is an incredible story and um there 02:59:28.680 --> 02:59:30.719 is this whole incredible story of 02:59:30.799 --> 02:59:34.040 reconciliation about how Louie Fraser 02:59:34.120 --> 02:59:37.000 reconciled with the woman who uh whose 02:59:37.079 --> 02:59:40.959 daughter had passed away um and it is I 02:59:41.040 --> 02:59:43.280 think just you know such an incredible 02:59:43.360 --> 02:59:45.319 Tale such a Sydney tale and such an 02:59:45.399 --> 02:59:47.799 incredibly interesting historic tale 02:59:47.879 --> 02:59:49.600 about not only the history of the area 02:59:49.680 --> 02:59:52.879 but also the human element of creativity 02:59:52.959 --> 02:59:55.600 that artists experience Lord mayor it's 02:59:55.680 --> 02:59:58.360 why the story captured me so much it's 02:59:58.440 --> 03:00:00.159 why I'm so passionate about having the 03:00:00.239 --> 03:00:04.280 statue restored uh and even the artist 03:00:04.360 --> 03:00:06.440 supports it the community supports it 03:00:06.520 --> 03:00:08.360 we've door knocked the street the 03:00:08.440 --> 03:00:10.799 businesses the residents um Bill and 03:00:10.879 --> 03:00:12.280 Tony have signed it they've put the 03:00:12.360 --> 03:00:14.879 petition up this is an incredible 03:00:14.959 --> 03:00:17.760 supported local idea that the local 03:00:17.840 --> 03:00:20.399 residents and businesses uh who have 03:00:20.479 --> 03:00:22.959 signed the petition did so with very 03:00:23.040 --> 03:00:25.120 welcoming arms to say that it would 03:00:25.200 --> 03:00:27.680 reinstate this important historical 03:00:27.760 --> 03:00:29.520 piece of art but also Lord mayor it 03:00:29.600 --> 03:00:31.920 would create interest and attraction to 03:00:32.000 --> 03:00:34.959 the east Sydney area perhaps not only on 03:00:35.040 --> 03:00:37.520 the weekends when we have Sydney streets 03:00:37.600 --> 03:00:39.159 as we've already discussed tonight Lord 03:00:39.239 --> 03:00:42.639 mayor but at other times uh this is an 03:00:42.719 --> 03:00:44.959 incredibly 03:00:45.040 --> 03:00:48.559 remarkable story and a very unique piece 03:00:48.639 --> 03:00:51.799 of art uh I support Consulting The 03:00:51.879 --> 03:00:53.680 Advisory panel I support Consulting the 03:00:53.760 --> 03:00:54.840 community it's why it's in the 03:00:54.920 --> 03:00:57.399 recommendation Lord mayor but I would be 03:00:57.479 --> 03:01:00.440 really really grateful if we could uh 03:01:00.520 --> 03:01:02.799 make a commitment tonight to restore the 03:01:02.879 --> 03:01:04.440 the bronze statue to its home on the 03:01:04.520 --> 03:01:06.959 plinth in East Sydney so councilor 03:01:07.040 --> 03:01:09.760 Walling could I suggest that on um seven 03:01:09.840 --> 03:01:11.600 you delete on the best way to rate the 03:01:11.680 --> 03:01:13.079 statue of Joy on staining Street in your 03:01:13.159 --> 03:01:14.120 WR Street 03:01:14.200 --> 03:01:15.879 because you were still asking the 03:01:15.959 --> 03:01:18.440 community in the public art panel what 03:01:18.520 --> 03:01:21.719 what they they uh what their view is and 03:01:21.799 --> 03:01:23.920 I think that's being respectful to both 03:01:24.000 --> 03:01:27.079 our policy and to the to the East India 03:01:27.159 --> 03:01:31.559 Community um and then once that 03:01:31.639 --> 03:01:35.280 Community consultation and the um the 03:01:35.360 --> 03:01:37.879 advice from the public advisory panel 03:01:37.959 --> 03:01:40.440 has has been received that would be then 03:01:40.520 --> 03:01:42.559 we would take the next 03:01:42.639 --> 03:01:44.159 steps 03:01:44.239 --> 03:01:48.120 um correct um I absolutely you know you 03:01:48.200 --> 03:01:50.280 know support you know you know the 03:01:50.360 --> 03:01:52.719 attempt to get joy back um into a 03:01:52.799 --> 03:01:55.440 rightful sorry uh getting joy into the 03:01:55.520 --> 03:01:57.280 rightful place and I think it's it's 03:01:57.360 --> 03:01:59.200 wonderful we've got so many support here 03:01:59.280 --> 03:02:01.079 and I know that Louis herself will be 03:02:01.159 --> 03:02:03.000 supporting for this and I think it's 03:02:03.079 --> 03:02:04.959 great that there's been door knocking um 03:02:05.040 --> 03:02:06.719 around the area but I think we have to 03:02:06.799 --> 03:02:10.040 make sure that um it goes through the 03:02:10.120 --> 03:02:11.879 proper procedures I'm sorry you've 03:02:11.959 --> 03:02:15.559 already spoken to the amendment 03:02:16.479 --> 03:02:19.200 so could we 03:02:19.680 --> 03:02:21.959 clarifi well I'm I'm just asking Council 03:02:22.040 --> 03:02:25.200 Walling if he's prepared to uh Delete 03:02:25.280 --> 03:02:26.559 the words on the best way to reinstate 03:02:26.639 --> 03:02:28.600 the statue of Joy on to St Street and 03:02:28.680 --> 03:02:30.719 eurong Street as it's preempting any 03:02:30.799 --> 03:02:33.040 advice from the community and any advice 03:02:33.120 --> 03:02:36.200 from the public art panel I accept that 03:02:36.280 --> 03:02:39.600 and and then you um and then leave it 03:02:39.680 --> 03:02:42.639 leave the rest of it until we get that 03:02:42.719 --> 03:02:44.280 advice from the community and advice 03:02:44.360 --> 03:02:47.440 from the public art 03:02:50.159 --> 03:02:53.079 panel Lord may may I say something about 03:02:53.159 --> 03:02:54.639 with respect to this incorporation of 03:02:54.719 --> 03:02:56.399 these wonderful amendments is we just 03:02:56.479 --> 03:02:58.600 insert Council Wallings amendments and 03:02:58.680 --> 03:03:01.280 let the process 03:03:01.360 --> 03:03:05.479 flow we we're we won't you know it won't 03:03:05.559 --> 03:03:07.040 I certainly won't be accepting the 03:03:07.120 --> 03:03:09.879 dations from Council warling I can 03:03:09.959 --> 03:03:12.399 understand that we insert the Amendments 03:03:12.479 --> 03:03:14.000 made by Council Waring 03:03:14.079 --> 03:03:16.079 but this whole process is about a 03:03:16.159 --> 03:03:18.120 recognition and a 03:03:18.200 --> 03:03:21.559 restoring of a statue of amazing woman 03:03:21.639 --> 03:03:24.760 in a form that will survive any sort of 03:03:24.840 --> 03:03:28.360 um Angry disapproval of what the statue 03:03:28.440 --> 03:03:30.799 stands 03:03:40.639 --> 03:03:42.239 for you 03:03:42.319 --> 03:03:45.479 can't okay 03:03:46.559 --> 03:03:50.879 can means we ask 03:03:52.719 --> 03:03:55.520 for yes the CEO has some advice for 03:03:55.600 --> 03:03:57.920 Council and I agree with it so what I'm 03:03:58.000 --> 03:04:01.559 just trying to clarify here is that just 03:04:01.639 --> 03:04:03.040 this is just so the staff understand 03:04:03.120 --> 03:04:05.360 what what it is that you're seeking so I 03:04:05.440 --> 03:04:07.079 understand that we're being I'm looking 03:04:07.159 --> 03:04:10.840 at councelor um warlings you're asking 03:04:10.920 --> 03:04:13.440 that we investigate firstly will the 03:04:13.520 --> 03:04:16.399 original can we um acquire the original 03:04:16.479 --> 03:04:19.799 sculpture y um acknowledging the 03:04:19.879 --> 03:04:21.719 controversy and the background 03:04:21.799 --> 03:04:23.200 acknowledging that we have to work 03:04:23.280 --> 03:04:25.200 through the art with the artist to you 03:04:25.280 --> 03:04:27.200 know confirm the moral rights and all of 03:04:27.280 --> 03:04:29.840 that process um taking it to the public 03:04:29.920 --> 03:04:31.559 art panel to make sure it's consistent 03:04:31.639 --> 03:04:34.959 with our policy um noting though that 03:04:35.040 --> 03:04:36.840 the condition of the sculpture May 03:04:36.920 --> 03:04:41.719 prohibit us doing this right so I think 03:04:41.799 --> 03:04:43.799 what was missing is that 03:04:43.879 --> 03:04:47.879 you know so we we need to speak to the 03:04:47.959 --> 03:04:49.959 community we need to speak to the artist 03:04:50.040 --> 03:04:52.520 and we need to speak to our policies 03:04:52.600 --> 03:04:55.680 right then we either are able to 03:04:55.760 --> 03:04:58.000 reinstate the original sculpture but 03:04:58.079 --> 03:05:00.319 failing that we are seeking advice on 03:05:00.399 --> 03:05:03.079 what an alternative sculpture would 03:05:03.159 --> 03:05:06.719 be councilor Scott is suggesting bronze 03:05:06.799 --> 03:05:09.120 and if that's the resolution then we 03:05:09.200 --> 03:05:11.000 come back obviously in the budget 03:05:11.079 --> 03:05:13.079 process and say we've done this work we 03:05:13.159 --> 03:05:16.000 are recommending a new sculpture needs 03:05:16.079 --> 03:05:19.319 to be created and this is the cost that 03:05:19.399 --> 03:05:20.600 it's going to be and that would be in 03:05:20.680 --> 03:05:23.360 the budget so I think the only thing 03:05:23.440 --> 03:05:27.680 that's missing from my understanding is 03:05:27.760 --> 03:05:30.639 that should as we've been advised 03:05:30.719 --> 03:05:33.239 already the existing sculpture may not 03:05:33.319 --> 03:05:35.920 be able to be reinstated we need to be 03:05:36.000 --> 03:05:39.079 sure that we are also saying therefore 03:05:39.159 --> 03:05:42.799 what what is the best form for the a a a 03:05:42.879 --> 03:05:45.360 reprodu uction or a new sculpture based 03:05:45.440 --> 03:05:48.440 on this one because of course there's 03:05:48.520 --> 03:05:50.239 the issue of creating the sculpture but 03:05:50.319 --> 03:05:52.239 there's also the the issue of a plen 03:05:52.319 --> 03:05:53.799 that can take such a sculpture so 03:05:53.879 --> 03:05:55.680 there's we been through this there's a 03:05:55.760 --> 03:05:59.559 lot that goes into it um so if we 03:05:59.639 --> 03:06:02.559 Council wng if we simply added um you 03:06:02.639 --> 03:06:04.639 know should the the condition of the St 03:06:04.719 --> 03:06:06.360 whether it is a risk of being 03:06:06.440 --> 03:06:08.399 vandalized the outcome of a border 03:06:08.479 --> 03:06:12.680 community and if and an Al if required 03:06:12.760 --> 03:06:13.760 an Al 03:06:13.840 --> 03:06:16.600 alternative 03:06:16.680 --> 03:06:20.360 um way to to create the 03:06:20.440 --> 03:06:24.680 alternative um creation of a new or 03:06:24.760 --> 03:06:27.559 reprod reproduced sculpture is that 03:06:27.639 --> 03:06:30.680 right does that make sense well it does 03:06:30.760 --> 03:06:32.600 it's it's just we there are processes we 03:06:32.680 --> 03:06:34.760 need to go through talk to the community 03:06:34.840 --> 03:06:37.719 and um sorry councilor Scott I haven't 03:06:37.799 --> 03:06:40.959 called you um and and and 03:06:41.040 --> 03:06:43.760 also consult the design advisor panel so 03:06:43.840 --> 03:06:45.840 that's really what we need to do before 03:06:45.920 --> 03:06:50.600 we take further action about um uh the 03:06:50.680 --> 03:06:53.360 next steps so that's that's where we're 03:06:53.440 --> 03:06:56.399 at with the um the 03:06:56.479 --> 03:07:01.079 amendment so um we we shouldn't do eight 03:07:01.159 --> 03:07:03.479 and nine because that's 03:07:03.559 --> 03:07:05.399 that's that's 03:07:05.479 --> 03:07:07.360 preempting the information we'll get 03:07:07.440 --> 03:07:08.920 from the community and it's preempting 03:07:09.000 --> 03:07:11.440 the information we'll get from the um 03:07:11.520 --> 03:07:15.280 the the the TIC advisory panel for the 03:07:15.360 --> 03:07:17.319 people who are here watching this you 03:07:17.399 --> 03:07:19.559 may very well get exactly what you want 03:07:19.639 --> 03:07:21.280 but the processes that we have to go 03:07:21.360 --> 03:07:24.559 through um and 03:07:24.639 --> 03:07:28.760 um and and we and we will do 03:07:28.840 --> 03:07:31.239 that and and when we've gone through 03:07:31.319 --> 03:07:33.879 those processes of course come back to 03:07:33.959 --> 03:07:38.520 you Lord may could I just I think this 03:07:38.600 --> 03:07:40.200 achieves what we're trying to do because 03:07:40.280 --> 03:07:41.520 I think we're all very much on the same 03:07:41.600 --> 03:07:46.520 page here in seven and 8 you could 03:07:46.600 --> 03:07:49.239 simply just add if supported by the 03:07:49.319 --> 03:07:51.840 community and if 03:07:51.920 --> 03:07:54.079 required and that well I think with with 03:07:54.159 --> 03:07:55.760 seven we just delete on the bis way to 03:07:55.840 --> 03:07:57.360 reinstate the statute of joy to street 03:07:57.440 --> 03:07:59.440 yurong street we so because we 03:07:59.520 --> 03:08:00.639 Consulting first of all with the 03:08:00.719 --> 03:08:03.120 community and then we are Consulting 03:08:03.200 --> 03:08:04.959 with the design advisory panel with the 03:08:05.040 --> 03:08:06.879 art advisory panel and then we're 03:08:06.959 --> 03:08:11.040 assessing the funding through the um the 03:08:11.120 --> 03:08:14.239 uh budget process and if all of that 03:08:14.319 --> 03:08:17.600 works out we can go ahead with with a 03:08:17.680 --> 03:08:20.239 new statute on the other hand we might 03:08:20.319 --> 03:08:22.399 still be able to require acquire it from 03:08:22.479 --> 03:08:24.879 mcquire University yeah so that's why if 03:08:24.959 --> 03:08:26.559 you just add if supported by the 03:08:26.639 --> 03:08:28.280 community Lord Marin if required it 03:08:28.360 --> 03:08:30.040 allows the staff to 03:08:30.120 --> 03:08:32.559 progress without having to bring it back 03:08:32.639 --> 03:08:33.959 to council if it's supported by the 03:08:34.040 --> 03:08:35.799 community if it goes through the 03:08:35.879 --> 03:08:40.719 process um look I don't like doing 03:08:40.799 --> 03:08:43.760 um making making policy on the run like 03:08:43.840 --> 03:08:45.239 this I'm going to move an adjournment 03:08:45.319 --> 03:08:49.120 for 15 minutes so that's seconded by 03:08:49.200 --> 03:08:50.719 theut Lord mayor I'll put that to you or 03:08:50.799 --> 03:08:52.600 as in favor say I those against declare 03:08:52.680 --> 03:08:54.559 it Carrried so we'll come back in 15 03:08:54.639 --> 03:08:57.920 minutes at 20 03:08:59.399 --> 03:09:02.680 to9 so I'll I'll move that we reconvene 03:09:02.760 --> 03:09:04.440 the meeting and I'll go to councilor 03:09:04.520 --> 03:09:09.479 warling who has um his amendment to move 03:09:09.559 --> 03:09:10.680 which has been 03:09:10.760 --> 03:09:14.920 circulated thank 03:09:15.280 --> 03:09:18.559 um first I'll uh remove my previous uh 03:09:18.639 --> 03:09:20.600 Amendment um and you have the one in 03:09:20.680 --> 03:09:23.479 front for you the new one in front the 03:09:23.559 --> 03:09:26.600 changes are in B Council requests the 03:09:26.680 --> 03:09:29.239 chief executive officer be requested to 03:09:29.319 --> 03:09:31.120 investigate acquiring the original 03:09:31.200 --> 03:09:33.159 Statue Of Joy from aquari University to 03:09:33.239 --> 03:09:35.520 be reinstated at the corner of eurong 03:09:35.600 --> 03:09:37.319 Stanley Street East 03:09:37.399 --> 03:09:40.799 Sydney two consult the city's local East 03:09:40.879 --> 03:09:43.000 Sydney community and public art advisory 03:09:43.079 --> 03:09:45.200 panel on reinstating the statue of Joy 03:09:45.280 --> 03:09:48.040 or replica to Stanley Street and urong 03:09:48.120 --> 03:09:51.040 Street and point three report back to 03:09:51.120 --> 03:09:52.399 council with the outcomes of the 03:09:52.479 --> 03:09:54.760 consultation and the advice of the 03:09:54.840 --> 03:09:57.200 public art advisory panel and options to 03:09:57.280 --> 03:10:01.639 bring joy or a replica back to as 03:10:03.280 --> 03:10:05.159 Sydney so 03:10:05.239 --> 03:10:09.120 second Council de 03:10:09.399 --> 03:10:14.840 admit do I have any um 03:10:14.920 --> 03:10:18.200 contributions Council Scott Lord mayor 03:10:18.280 --> 03:10:20.840 thanks I'm just a bit unclear 03:10:20.920 --> 03:10:24.120 so um it still doesn't include the 03:10:24.200 --> 03:10:26.840 provision for funding or is not in line 03:10:26.920 --> 03:10:28.280 with the artist wishes to ensure that 03:10:28.360 --> 03:10:29.120 it's a 03:10:29.200 --> 03:10:31.079 bronze 03:10:31.159 --> 03:10:34.239 statue uh and it doesn't it does it 03:10:34.319 --> 03:10:35.559 doesn't it doesn't mention the word 03:10:35.639 --> 03:10:37.239 bronze but it talks about Joy or a 03:10:37.319 --> 03:10:41.360 replica of Joy um and options to bring 03:10:41.440 --> 03:10:43.319 to bring a replica back to Sydney 03:10:43.399 --> 03:10:46.120 clearly it have to be 03:10:46.200 --> 03:10:48.959 funded okay so Lord may can we insert 03:10:49.040 --> 03:10:51.639 the words bronze replica because I don't 03:10:51.719 --> 03:10:52.680 think so because we're going to take 03:10:52.760 --> 03:10:56.120 advice from the public art 03:10:56.200 --> 03:10:59.600 panel okay but that is what the artist 03:10:59.680 --> 03:11:01.760 has and we've removed the section about 03:11:01.840 --> 03:11:04.959 the intellectual property of the 03:11:06.040 --> 03:11:08.200 artist which the the artist would have 03:11:08.280 --> 03:11:11.079 to address the public art art panel 03:11:11.159 --> 03:11:15.479 that's there's a process that all um uh 03:11:15.559 --> 03:11:17.280 artists have to go through in order to 03:11:17.360 --> 03:11:19.479 get their work um accepted and funded in 03:11:19.559 --> 03:11:22.239 a public place in the city and that's 03:11:22.319 --> 03:11:24.159 what what she would have to 03:11:24.239 --> 03:11:27.399 do and it's and it's covered here it's 03:11:27.479 --> 03:11:31.000 General enough to cover 03:11:32.399 --> 03:11:34.600 that CEO is going to have to report on 03:11:34.680 --> 03:11:36.399 the options to bring joy or replica back 03:11:36.479 --> 03:11:37.959 to a 03:11:38.040 --> 03:11:39.920 Sydney well that the options would 03:11:40.000 --> 03:11:41.680 include the budget 03:11:41.760 --> 03:11:43.520 yes 03:11:43.600 --> 03:11:45.399 okay Lord May and it's deleted the 03:11:45.479 --> 03:11:47.799 provision for funding for the 2023 24 03:11:47.879 --> 03:11:50.200 CEO contingency fund can I ask where 03:11:50.280 --> 03:11:51.120 that 03:11:51.200 --> 03:11:54.680 is it it's deleted the funding no it 03:11:54.760 --> 03:11:57.239 hasn't I mean clearly if we're to bring 03:11:57.319 --> 03:12:01.760 joy or replica to Jo back to the um the 03:12:01.840 --> 03:12:04.520 council would have to get advice about 03:12:04.600 --> 03:12:07.520 the uh the budgetary options it's I 03:12:07.600 --> 03:12:09.639 think it's it's covered there in three 03:12:09.719 --> 03:12:11.120 report back to council with the outcomes 03:12:11.200 --> 03:12:12.399 of the consultation and the advice the 03:12:12.479 --> 03:12:15.920 public advis advisory panel and options 03:12:16.000 --> 03:12:19.159 to bring joy or replica back to e Sydney 03:12:19.239 --> 03:12:20.760 well Lord may could I just ask that we 03:12:20.840 --> 03:12:23.000 put a time frame on that then we've got 03:12:23.079 --> 03:12:24.520 people here tonight very passionate 03:12:24.600 --> 03:12:26.440 about it we've got the ABC here who are 03:12:26.520 --> 03:12:29.159 very keen to make the documentary is 03:12:29.239 --> 03:12:30.559 there some time frame that we could 03:12:30.639 --> 03:12:32.959 place on this for it coming back to 03:12:33.040 --> 03:12:35.280 council well I I don't see how we can I 03:12:35.360 --> 03:12:36.879 mean we're resolving to do this and I 03:12:36.959 --> 03:12:39.399 expect the CEO will 03:12:39.479 --> 03:12:42.520 take every steps to do it as Expedition 03:12:42.600 --> 03:12:43.760 iously as 03:12:43.840 --> 03:12:46.520 possible could we ask the CEO when it 03:12:46.600 --> 03:12:48.600 might come back sorry could we ask the 03:12:48.680 --> 03:12:50.680 CEO for advice about when it might come 03:12:50.760 --> 03:12:53.760 back we we can I don't think 03:12:53.840 --> 03:12:56.680 she Lord mayor look we have to do 03:12:56.760 --> 03:12:58.040 consultation we have to speak to the 03:12:58.120 --> 03:13:00.120 artist and understand all of the 03:13:00.200 --> 03:13:02.159 concerns and conditions of the artist we 03:13:02.239 --> 03:13:04.399 have to do consultation in the community 03:13:04.479 --> 03:13:05.840 we have to take all of that information 03:13:05.920 --> 03:13:08.000 back to the public art panel uh we have 03:13:08.079 --> 03:13:11.000 to then conceptualize what the future if 03:13:11.079 --> 03:13:13.079 there's going to be a replic what that 03:13:13.159 --> 03:13:15.760 looks like what that costs um the time 03:13:15.840 --> 03:13:18.639 frame for doing that so I look we'll do 03:13:18.719 --> 03:13:20.639 it as quickly as we can and it has to 03:13:20.719 --> 03:13:22.879 come back to council and so it's it's 03:13:22.959 --> 03:13:24.559 immaterial which budget comes out of 03:13:24.639 --> 03:13:25.959 because a report has to come back to 03:13:26.040 --> 03:13:27.000 council saying this is the 03:13:27.079 --> 03:13:29.000 recommendation this is the timeline this 03:13:29.079 --> 03:13:31.760 is how much you 03:13:32.959 --> 03:13:35.719 need well Lord mayor I'm glad that we're 03:13:35.799 --> 03:13:37.360 proceeding in some way but I think it is 03:13:37.440 --> 03:13:39.200 disappointing I think the community want 03:13:39.280 --> 03:13:41.559 an answer tonight the 400 people who 03:13:41.639 --> 03:13:43.319 signed a petition wanted an answer the 03:13:43.399 --> 03:13:45.280 multiple stakeholders who've become 03:13:45.360 --> 03:13:47.920 engaged in this wanted an answer um 03:13:48.000 --> 03:13:49.639 tonight they're not going to get it um I 03:13:49.719 --> 03:13:51.280 hope that we can do it within the year 03:13:51.360 --> 03:13:54.040 and make sure that we can see it um up 03:13:54.120 --> 03:13:56.799 by next November I think that's a a 03:13:56.879 --> 03:13:59.000 reasonable uh request and I think it is 03:13:59.079 --> 03:14:01.639 important to ensure that um the many 03:14:01.719 --> 03:14:04.040 people who are pushing for this um the 03:14:04.120 --> 03:14:06.120 idea to reinstate this did not start 03:14:06.200 --> 03:14:09.159 with me um but for the artist for the 03:14:09.239 --> 03:14:12.120 community for the supporters um I think 03:14:12.200 --> 03:14:13.600 it is it's important that we do it as 03:14:13.680 --> 03:14:15.440 quickly as 03:14:15.520 --> 03:14:18.879 possible so I'll put the um motion to 03:14:18.959 --> 03:14:20.559 you oh Council 03:14:20.639 --> 03:14:23.079 welon thank you Lord mayor I actually 03:14:23.159 --> 03:14:26.000 was hoping to speak before we went for 03:14:26.079 --> 03:14:29.760 that 40 minute break uh just wanted to 03:14:29.840 --> 03:14:32.319 put on record that you know you all know 03:14:32.399 --> 03:14:34.840 that I'm a big advocate for representing 03:14:34.920 --> 03:14:36.000 in the public 03:14:36.079 --> 03:14:38.399 domain uh whilst I'm still campaigning 03:14:38.479 --> 03:14:41.520 for a statue of Pang that has a th000 uh 03:14:41.600 --> 03:14:43.760 people that have signed petition and as 03:14:43.840 --> 03:14:46.520 you referred to here tonight about your 03:14:46.600 --> 03:14:50.200 artist Eye and your artist view Lord May 03:14:50.280 --> 03:14:52.319 uh the key issues that you also referred 03:14:52.399 --> 03:14:55.360 to as about when you was a uh the local 03:14:55.440 --> 03:14:57.520 member of so many of the people that 03:14:57.600 --> 03:14:59.959 spoke to you in such a negative way 03:15:00.040 --> 03:15:02.520 through those biases and what they have 03:15:02.600 --> 03:15:04.959 actually undertaken to have a negative 03:15:05.040 --> 03:15:08.239 view on anyone in our community that was 03:15:08.319 --> 03:15:10.319 in that day and it appears that it's 03:15:10.399 --> 03:15:12.520 still in this day when I think about 03:15:12.600 --> 03:15:15.000 what I have put forward in this Council 03:15:15.079 --> 03:15:17.479 and also was what Dr Karen Phelps put in 03:15:17.559 --> 03:15:19.239 the previous Council around trying to 03:15:19.319 --> 03:15:23.079 get a the first Aboriginal woman to be 03:15:23.159 --> 03:15:25.639 recognized in a statute in actual fact 03:15:25.719 --> 03:15:27.399 the first Aboriginal person to be 03:15:27.479 --> 03:15:30.040 recognized in a statute here in this 03:15:30.120 --> 03:15:32.559 city is still yet to be done and I know 03:15:32.639 --> 03:15:34.200 there's some processes that everyone 03:15:34.280 --> 03:15:35.799 actually wants to tick off on but it 03:15:35.879 --> 03:15:38.280 actually talks about our commitment so I 03:15:38.360 --> 03:15:40.559 commend uh councelor Scott for bringing 03:15:40.639 --> 03:15:42.840 this forward to make sure that those 03:15:42.920 --> 03:15:46.159 biases that actually drove uh joy out of 03:15:46.239 --> 03:15:49.319 our city hopefully will be returned with 03:15:49.399 --> 03:15:51.920 the artist preference in a meaningful 03:15:52.000 --> 03:15:54.559 way I am supportive of recogniz 03:15:54.639 --> 03:15:56.319 recognizing more women and celebrating 03:15:56.399 --> 03:15:59.719 our City Community in all its diversity 03:15:59.799 --> 03:16:03.239 with all of the uh biases that exist and 03:16:03.319 --> 03:16:05.879 the barriers that exist while we don't 03:16:05.959 --> 03:16:08.879 have our women represented and whether 03:16:08.959 --> 03:16:10.680 they be a sex worker or whether they 03:16:10.760 --> 03:16:12.799 actually be the truth teller of language 03:16:12.879 --> 03:16:15.120 in this country that has moved forward 03:16:15.200 --> 03:16:17.559 for everyone in this city and we haven't 03:16:17.639 --> 03:16:20.079 recognized we will not recognized until 03:16:20.159 --> 03:16:23.120 we actually get it done using statutes 03:16:23.200 --> 03:16:24.879 to commemorate those who wouldn't have 03:16:24.959 --> 03:16:27.879 traditionally been it is powerful and it 03:16:27.959 --> 03:16:30.159 is needed there is a truth telling that 03:16:30.239 --> 03:16:33.399 is not done and yet we still don't do it 03:16:33.479 --> 03:16:35.799 we are deferring yet again or we're 03:16:35.879 --> 03:16:37.760 waiting and we're waiting and we'll wait 03:16:37.840 --> 03:16:40.120 some more hopefully that we can get it 03:16:40.200 --> 03:16:42.799 done in this term of this Council and 03:16:42.879 --> 03:16:45.319 not wait it for another one thank you 03:16:45.399 --> 03:16:47.360 councilor Scott for raising the motion 03:16:47.440 --> 03:16:49.840 and acknowledging those I need to 03:16:49.920 --> 03:16:51.799 acknowledge those that are here tonight 03:16:51.879 --> 03:16:53.520 those that are represented online but 03:16:53.600 --> 03:16:55.559 also for the counselors that really want 03:16:55.639 --> 03:16:58.200 to make sure our city is inclusive 03:16:58.280 --> 03:17:00.479 without those biases and certainly 03:17:00.559 --> 03:17:03.479 without with all of us being included 03:17:03.559 --> 03:17:05.840 let's bring joy back and let's also 03:17:05.920 --> 03:17:10.079 recognize some of the Ci's first 03:17:11.200 --> 03:17:14.200 people 03:17:25.200 --> 03:17:28.760 CEO would like to give Council some 03:17:28.840 --> 03:17:32.040 information um Lord may just through you 03:17:32.120 --> 03:17:33.639 and for the counselors and look the 03:17:33.719 --> 03:17:35.600 consultation is one thing but I do want 03:17:35.680 --> 03:17:37.239 you to understand what it takes to make 03:17:37.319 --> 03:17:39.600 a bronze sculpture I mean you do 03:17:39.680 --> 03:17:42.399 understand that SC that the artist needs 03:17:42.479 --> 03:17:44.280 to you know be satisfied with the mold 03:17:44.360 --> 03:17:45.680 that is made you have to find someone to 03:17:45.760 --> 03:17:47.440 make the mold the artist has to be 03:17:47.520 --> 03:17:49.319 satisfied with the mold you have to find 03:17:49.399 --> 03:17:51.920 a Foundry that will cast it so if it if 03:17:52.000 --> 03:17:54.399 it was a bronze sculpture just all of 03:17:54.479 --> 03:17:56.719 those steps and all of that procurement 03:17:56.799 --> 03:17:58.799 is does take time is all I'm trying to 03:17:58.879 --> 03:18:02.559 say is that it's not a question of um 03:18:02.639 --> 03:18:04.840 you know the consultation is one part 03:18:04.920 --> 03:18:06.840 but actually fabricating a sculpture 03:18:06.920 --> 03:18:09.840 does take time and you know we also have 03:18:09.920 --> 03:18:11.559 procurement processes that we have to go 03:18:11.639 --> 03:18:13.399 through we have to find the right people 03:18:13.479 --> 03:18:15.559 so I'm just just trying to say you know 03:18:15.639 --> 03:18:16.760 I understand you want us to go as 03:18:16.840 --> 03:18:19.719 quickly as possible but it does take 03:18:19.799 --> 03:18:23.479 time to create um those works thank you 03:18:23.559 --> 03:18:25.000 thank you so I'll put the motion to you 03:18:25.079 --> 03:18:26.559 all those in favor I'll put the 03:18:26.639 --> 03:18:28.120 amendment to 03:18:28.200 --> 03:18:32.360 you all those in favor say 03:18:32.440 --> 03:18:35.280 I those 03:18:35.360 --> 03:18:38.280 against amendments 03:18:38.360 --> 03:18:40.120 Carrried so we're going back to the 03:18:40.200 --> 03:18:41.520 amended motion I'll put the amended 03:18:41.600 --> 03:18:43.879 motion to you all those in favor say 03:18:43.959 --> 03:18:46.280 I those against declare cured 03:18:46.360 --> 03:18:47.920 unanimously thank 03:18:48.000 --> 03:18:49.920 you thank you for 03:18:50.000 --> 03:18:53.040 attendance item 15.5 Council submission 03:18:53.120 --> 03:18:54.360 to the Explorer Street public housing 03:18:54.440 --> 03:18:56.040 resoning 03:18:56.120 --> 03:18:59.040 proposal so Council elore thank you 03:18:59.120 --> 03:19:00.959 councilors uh these are the final two 03:19:01.040 --> 03:19:02.440 notices of motion for the night and 03:19:02.520 --> 03:19:05.280 they're related um the first is in 03:19:05.360 --> 03:19:07.719 relation to explor Street um councilors 03:19:07.799 --> 03:19:09.639 would have seen on the papers a motion 03:19:09.719 --> 03:19:12.120 um the earlier version of the motion I'm 03:19:12.200 --> 03:19:14.000 going to move an amended alternative 03:19:14.079 --> 03:19:16.520 motion which has now been circulated to 03:19:16.600 --> 03:19:19.760 counselors in hard 03:19:20.520 --> 03:19:24.440 copy one has that 03:19:28.680 --> 03:19:31.000 Cy this item 03:19:31.079 --> 03:19:34.079 15.7 03:19:34.319 --> 03:19:36.000 15.5 all 03:19:36.079 --> 03:19:40.879 right thanks great councilors um the 03:19:40.959 --> 03:19:42.520 city of Sydney has completed submission 03:19:42.600 --> 03:19:44.639 for the Explorer Street resoning which 03:19:44.719 --> 03:19:47.000 is unfortunately a project I was 03:19:47.079 --> 03:19:49.079 optimistic we wouldn't have to fight 03:19:49.159 --> 03:19:50.159 because the state government had 03:19:50.239 --> 03:19:51.360 committed that it wasn't going to 03:19:51.440 --> 03:19:53.399 privatize public housing and yet we've 03:19:53.479 --> 03:19:56.440 seen the first state Le resoning to be a 03:19:56.520 --> 03:19:59.239 submission of a successful um long 03:19:59.319 --> 03:20:01.360 running relatively new public housing 03:20:01.440 --> 03:20:04.200 estate in Ely or Kenville which is home 03:20:04.280 --> 03:20:07.639 to it has 46 homes and people who lived 03:20:07.719 --> 03:20:10.280 in that estate for up to um 30 years 03:20:10.360 --> 03:20:12.200 since it was first established and also 03:20:12.280 --> 03:20:13.600 people who were moved from Miller's 03:20:13.680 --> 03:20:15.639 point and told they were never going to 03:20:15.719 --> 03:20:17.520 have to move again after the state 03:20:17.600 --> 03:20:20.200 government sold off and relocated that 03:20:20.280 --> 03:20:22.079 historic Community who are now being 03:20:22.159 --> 03:20:24.319 told they need to move one more time 03:20:24.399 --> 03:20:26.120 because of a resoning because their land 03:20:26.200 --> 03:20:28.040 is uh too valuable to leave their 03:20:28.120 --> 03:20:31.479 successful public housing estate alone 03:20:31.559 --> 03:20:33.559 this um notice of motion asks because 03:20:33.639 --> 03:20:35.120 Council has written a submission made it 03:20:35.200 --> 03:20:37.559 available to the community to help them 03:20:37.639 --> 03:20:39.280 write their submissions deadlines closed 03:20:39.360 --> 03:20:42.760 on the 1st of December for rezoning um s 03:20:42.840 --> 03:20:44.799 asks that we can um provide a 03:20:44.879 --> 03:20:46.799 supplementary submission with further 03:20:46.879 --> 03:20:48.920 information um I was requested to put 03:20:49.000 --> 03:20:50.280 this forward by the community there was 03:20:50.360 --> 03:20:51.479 a public meeting that myself and 03:20:51.559 --> 03:20:53.040 councelor Davis attended a couple of 03:20:53.120 --> 03:20:55.600 weeks ago jointly organized by friends 03:20:55.680 --> 03:20:57.879 of Kenville the Alexandria residence 03:20:57.959 --> 03:21:01.399 Action Group and red watch and at which 03:21:01.479 --> 03:21:04.200 um residents from the um Explorer Street 03:21:04.280 --> 03:21:06.280 estate spoke about their concerns and 03:21:06.360 --> 03:21:07.840 their opposition to the proposal that 03:21:07.920 --> 03:21:09.840 their homes be demolished and that they 03:21:09.920 --> 03:21:13.319 move on um I have after Consulting with 03:21:13.399 --> 03:21:16.040 those groups put forward some uh points 03:21:16.120 --> 03:21:17.920 which I hope Council will support could 03:21:18.000 --> 03:21:19.360 be included in a supplementary 03:21:19.440 --> 03:21:22.120 submission Focus specifically about the 03:21:22.200 --> 03:21:23.680 city's expectation of community 03:21:23.760 --> 03:21:25.760 engagement it doesn't propose the 03:21:25.840 --> 03:21:28.840 specific words but rather it um proposes 03:21:28.920 --> 03:21:30.639 that we include the principles or 03:21:30.719 --> 03:21:32.600 general points and that the CEO be 03:21:32.680 --> 03:21:34.959 authorized to finalize and submit this 03:21:35.040 --> 03:21:37.639 information in line with this decision 03:21:37.719 --> 03:21:39.559 um to briefly spoke to speak to some of 03:21:39.639 --> 03:21:41.159 those points they are before counselors 03:21:41.239 --> 03:21:42.760 but people I know at home are listening 03:21:42.840 --> 03:21:45.559 and do not have a copy um I'm proposing 03:21:45.639 --> 03:21:47.239 that the additional information that the 03:21:47.319 --> 03:21:49.600 city provide with its submission to the 03:21:49.680 --> 03:21:51.920 Department of planning be that um we 03:21:52.000 --> 03:21:53.440 should emphasize that a robust 03:21:53.520 --> 03:21:55.280 transparent and open consultation with 03:21:55.360 --> 03:21:57.040 public housing tenants should be a pre 03:21:57.120 --> 03:21:58.959 prerequisite of all plans to develop 03:21:59.040 --> 03:22:01.360 public housing that we should include 03:22:01.440 --> 03:22:03.280 recommendations about tenant engagement 03:22:03.360 --> 03:22:04.799 in the design and delivery of the 03:22:04.879 --> 03:22:07.120 program project and better consult with 03:22:07.200 --> 03:22:09.040 the wider Community best practice should 03:22:09.120 --> 03:22:10.799 include involving public housing tenants 03:22:10.879 --> 03:22:12.559 in co-designing or actively playing a 03:22:12.639 --> 03:22:14.360 leading role in future plans for their 03:22:14.440 --> 03:22:16.600 house houses they know the community 03:22:16.680 --> 03:22:18.760 they know what will work there and we 03:22:18.840 --> 03:22:20.479 know from overseas that you get better 03:22:20.559 --> 03:22:21.920 housing if you actually talk to the 03:22:22.000 --> 03:22:23.520 people who are going to live in it 03:22:23.600 --> 03:22:24.959 particularly with vulnerable communities 03:22:25.040 --> 03:22:27.959 like public housing tenants I'm also um 03:22:28.040 --> 03:22:29.280 proposing that we note that there's a 03:22:29.360 --> 03:22:30.959 high level of anxiety and concern 03:22:31.040 --> 03:22:32.959 amongst tenants about the proposal 03:22:33.040 --> 03:22:35.000 amongst those who are aware of the plans 03:22:35.079 --> 03:22:37.319 I was able to door knock the estate with 03:22:37.399 --> 03:22:38.760 um and there's more door knocking going 03:22:38.840 --> 03:22:42.159 on with the local MP Jenny Leong MP MP 03:22:42.239 --> 03:22:43.920 uh greens MP and she's currently 03:22:44.000 --> 03:22:45.280 surveying tenants to try and get some 03:22:45.360 --> 03:22:47.879 more feedback to inform um her local MP 03:22:47.959 --> 03:22:49.719 submission and a lot of the tenants knew 03:22:49.799 --> 03:22:51.879 about it but a lot of the tenants didn't 03:22:51.959 --> 03:22:54.239 and we had Tenants come out with copies 03:22:54.319 --> 03:22:55.600 of letters they'd been given which was 03:22:55.680 --> 03:22:57.639 to be quite Frank a relatively technical 03:22:57.719 --> 03:22:59.760 version that ticks all the boxes to say 03:22:59.840 --> 03:23:01.600 we have told you what is going on this 03:23:01.680 --> 03:23:03.920 but it didn't say this resoning is 03:23:04.000 --> 03:23:07.200 proposed to demolish your home um we had 03:23:07.280 --> 03:23:08.760 one person who did not have great 03:23:08.840 --> 03:23:11.200 English who was saying I think it was 03:23:11.280 --> 03:23:12.840 this letter and they didn't understand 03:23:12.920 --> 03:23:15.319 it and when we asked um the 03:23:15.399 --> 03:23:16.600 representatives from land and housing 03:23:16.680 --> 03:23:18.559 and the department of planning that PE 03:23:18.639 --> 03:23:20.200 we said to them people do not understand 03:23:20.280 --> 03:23:21.760 the implication of this you've extended 03:23:21.840 --> 03:23:23.239 the consultation for two weeks but they 03:23:23.319 --> 03:23:25.000 don't really understand what is proposed 03:23:25.079 --> 03:23:27.520 here we were told but I letter box that 03:23:27.600 --> 03:23:30.079 um myself they went to all 46 houses it 03:23:30.159 --> 03:23:31.760 doesn't matter if you letter box it it 03:23:31.840 --> 03:23:33.399 matters if the person who receives the 03:23:33.479 --> 03:23:35.479 information understands it that's the 03:23:35.559 --> 03:23:38.159 purpose of the consultation it was a to 03:23:38.239 --> 03:23:40.000 be quite Frank smug and heartbreaking 03:23:40.079 --> 03:23:42.280 resp actually it's just been it was just 03:23:42.360 --> 03:23:44.680 anyway um it's not consultation it was 03:23:44.760 --> 03:23:46.239 that's not that's so I think it's very 03:23:46.319 --> 03:23:48.559 important that we as the city say that 03:23:48.639 --> 03:23:50.360 say we expect more in terms of community 03:23:50.440 --> 03:23:51.760 engagement and we talk about what 03:23:51.840 --> 03:23:54.639 exactly that means because clearly there 03:23:54.719 --> 03:23:56.399 seems to be an expectation that the 03:23:56.479 --> 03:23:58.360 consultation is being done well at least 03:23:58.440 --> 03:23:59.920 from the agencies involved in this 03:24:00.000 --> 03:24:02.360 process um as I mentioned earlier I've 03:24:02.440 --> 03:24:03.959 asked that we note that there's a number 03:24:04.040 --> 03:24:05.360 of public housing tenants who live at 03:24:05.440 --> 03:24:06.760 that a state who've lived there for more 03:24:06.840 --> 03:24:08.879 than 20 years I spoke to someone who had 03:24:08.959 --> 03:24:10.799 was the third generation of an abigal 03:24:10.879 --> 03:24:13.799 family living in that State um and that 03:24:13.879 --> 03:24:15.799 includes people relocated from Miller's 03:24:15.879 --> 03:24:17.159 point who were told they would never be 03:24:17.239 --> 03:24:19.600 forced to move again it says that we 03:24:19.680 --> 03:24:21.600 should Advocate that agencies at minimum 03:24:21.680 --> 03:24:23.920 follow the C compact for Renewal which 03:24:24.000 --> 03:24:26.600 was what partly followed by the previous 03:24:26.680 --> 03:24:28.559 state government um around how you 03:24:28.639 --> 03:24:29.879 should engage with public housing 03:24:29.959 --> 03:24:32.319 tenants I mean to be honest it was a big 03:24:32.399 --> 03:24:33.799 fight to even get the state government 03:24:33.879 --> 03:24:36.360 to commit to things in that policy like 03:24:36.440 --> 03:24:38.040 there will be respect for public housing 03:24:38.120 --> 03:24:40.479 tenants so it's a bloody low bar but I 03:24:40.559 --> 03:24:41.760 think it's important to reference ref 03:24:41.840 --> 03:24:44.520 that work that has previously been um 03:24:44.600 --> 03:24:47.040 developed with the community and there's 03:24:47.120 --> 03:24:49.079 a few other points here but finally that 03:24:49.159 --> 03:24:51.360 we need to Advocate and I think this is 03:24:51.440 --> 03:24:52.680 partly in the city's submission but 03:24:52.760 --> 03:24:54.200 could be strengthened they're not 03:24:54.280 --> 03:24:55.920 proposing to build enough apartments 03:24:56.000 --> 03:24:57.200 that would be able to take back the 03:24:57.280 --> 03:24:59.120 families that are currently there if 03:24:59.200 --> 03:25:01.159 they want to come back so any comments 03:25:01.239 --> 03:25:02.799 about a right to return and we should be 03:25:02.879 --> 03:25:04.600 advocating that people have a mandated 03:25:04.680 --> 03:25:07.120 right for um to return as the Lord mayor 03:25:07.200 --> 03:25:08.799 has included in her minute about 03:25:08.879 --> 03:25:12.159 Waterloo but the current proposal is 03:25:12.239 --> 03:25:14.399 um that there will be some apartments 03:25:14.479 --> 03:25:15.520 but they're banking that some people 03:25:15.600 --> 03:25:16.799 won't want to come back and they're just 03:25:16.879 --> 03:25:18.360 not planning to build enough family 03:25:18.440 --> 03:25:20.559 homes to let the families come back but 03:25:20.639 --> 03:25:21.920 they're telling everybody if you want to 03:25:22.000 --> 03:25:25.000 come back you can for a proposed 03:25:25.079 --> 03:25:26.719 expansion of public housing that isn't 03:25:26.799 --> 03:25:28.120 good enough people should have a right 03:25:28.200 --> 03:25:29.920 to return and they should have a right 03:25:30.000 --> 03:25:31.799 to be relocated in the community that 03:25:31.879 --> 03:25:33.879 they the local area in the meantime that 03:25:33.959 --> 03:25:35.120 was the main thing that I heard to be 03:25:35.200 --> 03:25:36.799 honest I heard from people we don't want 03:25:36.879 --> 03:25:39.040 our state to be demolished but they were 03:25:39.120 --> 03:25:40.840 open to more housing being built if it 03:25:40.920 --> 03:25:41.920 meant 03:25:42.000 --> 03:25:43.680 they could stay nearby and still be 03:25:43.760 --> 03:25:45.200 connected to the community they' always 03:25:45.280 --> 03:25:47.159 lived in there is nothing in any of the 03:25:47.239 --> 03:25:48.799 state government policies or legislation 03:25:48.879 --> 03:25:51.000 that allows protection of that it's a 03:25:51.079 --> 03:25:52.840 really straightforward ask it's about 03:25:52.920 --> 03:25:55.399 not breaking up communities um and I 03:25:55.479 --> 03:25:57.200 think the city could be explicit in 03:25:57.280 --> 03:25:58.600 advocating for that through 03:25:58.680 --> 03:26:00.239 supplementary information through its 03:26:00.319 --> 03:26:03.479 submission thank 03:26:05.040 --> 03:26:08.920 you second councilor Scott councilor 03:26:09.000 --> 03:26:10.879 Scott thanks Lord mayor uh I support 03:26:10.959 --> 03:26:14.239 this notice of motion and I um thank uh 03:26:14.319 --> 03:26:15.600 counselors for the work they've done to 03:26:15.680 --> 03:26:17.200 engage with the tenants I've also Dawn 03:26:17.280 --> 03:26:19.959 up these residents uh as with all these 03:26:20.040 --> 03:26:24.079 um um renewals and uh processes to 03:26:24.159 --> 03:26:26.000 create more public housing it is a very 03:26:26.079 --> 03:26:28.399 uncertain time uh and as I did earlier I 03:26:28.479 --> 03:26:29.719 think it is really important to 03:26:29.799 --> 03:26:32.360 recognize that uh I think the design and 03:26:32.440 --> 03:26:34.760 the public consultation about what this 03:26:34.840 --> 03:26:36.639 future public housing will look like is 03:26:36.719 --> 03:26:38.959 going to be really important um and I 03:26:39.040 --> 03:26:40.799 endorse the call from the tenants to 03:26:40.879 --> 03:26:43.200 ensure that that the future plans allow 03:26:43.280 --> 03:26:45.680 for their rights of return uh minimizing 03:26:45.760 --> 03:26:47.760 disruption and ensuring that there is a 03:26:47.840 --> 03:26:49.959 tenant voice uh occurring through the 03:26:50.040 --> 03:26:52.319 process uh Lord mayor it's been a very 03:26:52.399 --> 03:26:54.440 long time since we have had a proper 03:26:54.520 --> 03:26:56.799 investment of money both federal and 03:26:56.879 --> 03:26:59.200 state in new public housing uh I think 03:26:59.280 --> 03:27:01.200 it is disappointing and I'm very happy 03:27:01.280 --> 03:27:03.239 to call out when the engagement 03:27:03.319 --> 03:27:04.959 processes with tenants are not done 03:27:05.040 --> 03:27:07.040 correctly just letter boxing and leaving 03:27:07.120 --> 03:27:09.200 something under the door is insufficient 03:27:09.280 --> 03:27:10.399 I think we should just call that out 03:27:10.479 --> 03:27:12.399 really plainly if you're going to speak 03:27:12.479 --> 03:27:14.680 to somebody about changing their home 03:27:14.760 --> 03:27:16.719 then I think it is right and proper to 03:27:16.799 --> 03:27:18.920 like we have all done door knock them 03:27:19.000 --> 03:27:21.280 and have a conversation with people uh 03:27:21.360 --> 03:27:23.000 so I'm disappointed to hear that I look 03:27:23.079 --> 03:27:24.680 forward to continuing to talk to this 03:27:24.760 --> 03:27:26.959 community right throughout the process I 03:27:27.040 --> 03:27:28.399 welcome the city undertaking a 03:27:28.479 --> 03:27:30.280 submission on behalf of residents and I 03:27:30.360 --> 03:27:32.040 think alongside I'm sure many other 03:27:32.120 --> 03:27:34.159 counselors around this table we all look 03:27:34.239 --> 03:27:36.040 forward to seeing a world where again 03:27:36.120 --> 03:27:38.159 there is well-designed adequate housing 03:27:38.239 --> 03:27:39.920 people can return to their homes in this 03:27:40.000 --> 03:27:42.040 lovely Community but but we're able to 03:27:42.120 --> 03:27:44.920 make more public housing available in 03:27:45.000 --> 03:27:48.200 the time of a housing 03:27:49.040 --> 03:27:53.719 crisis okay so I'll um Council W thank 03:27:53.799 --> 03:27:55.760 you Lord mayor just wanted to say there 03:27:55.840 --> 03:27:58.360 are some I think uh councel Ellmore for 03:27:58.440 --> 03:27:59.520 this motion there are some really 03:27:59.600 --> 03:28:01.319 important recommendations put forward in 03:28:01.399 --> 03:28:03.920 this motion uh relocations up in the 03:28:04.000 --> 03:28:05.520 lives of some of the most vulnerable 03:28:05.600 --> 03:28:08.239 people in our community we need to hear 03:28:08.319 --> 03:28:10.319 their voices and we need to ensure that 03:28:10.399 --> 03:28:13.239 we're engaging 03:28:16.520 --> 03:28:18.879 quickly I'll put the motion to you all 03:28:18.959 --> 03:28:21.520 those in favor say I those against 03:28:21.600 --> 03:28:24.520 declare it Carrried uny thank you item 03:28:24.600 --> 03:28:26.680 15.7 public housing tenant voice in 03:28:26.760 --> 03:28:29.600 Redevelopment of public housing 03:28:29.680 --> 03:28:33.280 El thank you Lord mayor and um I move 03:28:33.360 --> 03:28:35.200 the last item of the night and also it 03:28:35.280 --> 03:28:37.719 is an alternative motion thank you to 03:28:37.799 --> 03:28:39.680 councelor Chan um for some feedback 03:28:39.760 --> 03:28:42.360 around amendments that I hope councilors 03:28:42.440 --> 03:28:44.280 have before them it is the original 03:28:44.360 --> 03:28:46.559 motion plus an additional Point noting 03:28:46.639 --> 03:28:47.760 um because we're going to be talking 03:28:47.840 --> 03:28:50.040 comparing London Council that we have a 03:28:50.120 --> 03:28:52.239 different jurisdiction here and also 03:28:52.319 --> 03:28:54.280 additional actions at Point D that the 03:28:54.360 --> 03:28:55.959 Lord mayor be requested to write to the 03:28:56.040 --> 03:28:58.799 minister for housing um and Minister for 03:28:58.879 --> 03:29:00.719 planning and public spaces calling on 03:29:00.799 --> 03:29:02.159 the New South Wales government to 03:29:02.239 --> 03:29:04.079 consider International models for 03:29:04.159 --> 03:29:05.840 managing social housing Redevelopment 03:29:05.920 --> 03:29:08.079 projects mandate a general right of 03:29:08.159 --> 03:29:10.520 return for all residents a genuine right 03:29:10.600 --> 03:29:13.079 of return for all residents in social 03:29:13.159 --> 03:29:15.319 housing Redevelopment projects and 03:29:15.399 --> 03:29:16.920 Implement requirements to promote the 03:29:17.000 --> 03:29:18.600 rights Andor engagement with social 03:29:18.680 --> 03:29:20.319 housing residents in the Redevelopment 03:29:20.399 --> 03:29:22.559 of their homes not to speak very long to 03:29:22.639 --> 03:29:23.760 this one because I know we're all Keen 03:29:23.840 --> 03:29:25.200 to get home but also because I know from 03:29:25.280 --> 03:29:27.159 speakers to counselors that you're all 03:29:27.239 --> 03:29:29.079 strongly in support of the direction of 03:29:29.159 --> 03:29:31.120 this motion we've talked a lot tonight 03:29:31.200 --> 03:29:33.040 about how there is no protection in 03:29:33.120 --> 03:29:35.360 legislation for public housing tenants 03:29:35.440 --> 03:29:37.840 to have a voice really at any aspect of 03:29:37.920 --> 03:29:40.639 the development proposal um for public 03:29:40.719 --> 03:29:42.639 housing there's no right to be involved 03:29:42.719 --> 03:29:45.120 in designing the plans there's no right 03:29:45.200 --> 03:29:47.200 to um if you're going to be relocated to 03:29:47.280 --> 03:29:49.360 say where you'll be relocated you have 03:29:49.440 --> 03:29:52.120 no right to return and public 03:29:52.200 --> 03:29:53.559 consultation is often presented as 03:29:53.639 --> 03:29:55.399 something that will slow things down we 03:29:55.479 --> 03:29:57.120 know that we can do much better and if 03:29:57.200 --> 03:30:00.120 we look to our an similar jurisdiction 03:30:00.200 --> 03:30:02.479 in London there the councils have 03:30:02.559 --> 03:30:05.479 established after a horrific history of 03:30:05.559 --> 03:30:07.040 demolishing and ruining local 03:30:07.120 --> 03:30:08.959 communities with bad Redevelopment of 03:30:09.040 --> 03:30:11.520 public housing Estates they have gone as 03:30:11.600 --> 03:30:14.200 so far as um to entrench rules that say 03:30:14.280 --> 03:30:16.040 you cannot they act more like the state 03:30:16.120 --> 03:30:17.840 Authority which has the ability to do 03:30:17.920 --> 03:30:18.920 this and say we won't approve a 03:30:19.000 --> 03:30:21.680 development unless but has the um they 03:30:21.760 --> 03:30:23.440 say unless you are going to involve 03:30:23.520 --> 03:30:25.200 public housing tenants um at the 03:30:25.280 --> 03:30:27.000 beginning and they that is usually 03:30:27.079 --> 03:30:28.239 through the election of someone who's 03:30:28.319 --> 03:30:29.319 going to of a board that's going to 03:30:29.399 --> 03:30:31.840 co-design the project there's a ballot 03:30:31.920 --> 03:30:33.719 at the end so if the community is not 03:30:33.799 --> 03:30:34.879 involved in the plans and they don't 03:30:34.959 --> 03:30:36.840 like the plans they can reject them and 03:30:36.920 --> 03:30:39.079 the fact that they get a vote at the end 03:30:39.159 --> 03:30:41.120 means that there is genuine consultation 03:30:41.200 --> 03:30:43.760 through the process that there is um 03:30:43.840 --> 03:30:46.120 that has not led to development stopping 03:30:46.200 --> 03:30:47.959 in fact it's led to a lot of infill 03:30:48.040 --> 03:30:50.200 development in a States but in a way 03:30:50.280 --> 03:30:51.600 that supports and protects the community 03:30:51.680 --> 03:30:53.920 and better housing right it has tend to 03:30:54.000 --> 03:30:57.079 led to staged projects where the um they 03:30:57.159 --> 03:30:58.840 will redevelop one part of the estate 03:30:58.920 --> 03:31:00.280 and then whoever has to move out only 03:31:00.360 --> 03:31:02.120 has to move out temporarily so they can 03:31:02.200 --> 03:31:04.399 move back in and in that way you keep 03:31:04.479 --> 03:31:06.760 people connected but you also in by 03:31:06.840 --> 03:31:08.319 involving people the whole way through 03:31:08.399 --> 03:31:10.159 the design process you get housing 03:31:10.239 --> 03:31:11.360 designed at the end that's actually 03:31:11.440 --> 03:31:12.879 going to work for that Community because 03:31:12.959 --> 03:31:14.360 they know that Community how they're 03:31:14.440 --> 03:31:17.840 aging what their families need um my 03:31:17.920 --> 03:31:20.079 proposal is that we consider where 03:31:20.159 --> 03:31:22.360 although we have so many fewer Powers as 03:31:22.440 --> 03:31:25.680 the city of cityy council um what could 03:31:25.760 --> 03:31:27.799 we do creatively to try and develop some 03:31:27.879 --> 03:31:29.920 sort of best practice guide that says 03:31:30.000 --> 03:31:31.600 let's learn the lessons of how this can 03:31:31.680 --> 03:31:33.440 be done better you don't have to 03:31:33.520 --> 03:31:35.600 bulldoze literally bulldoze communities 03:31:35.680 --> 03:31:37.399 and bulldo over the top of tenants 03:31:37.479 --> 03:31:39.799 rights what can we do to try and set a 03:31:39.879 --> 03:31:41.680 standard to say this is how communities 03:31:41.760 --> 03:31:43.959 should be engaged that can work and can 03:31:44.040 --> 03:31:45.799 leave us with better and more housing at 03:31:45.879 --> 03:31:48.399 the end of it and not frankly devastate 03:31:48.479 --> 03:31:50.520 people's lives in the process that is 03:31:50.600 --> 03:31:53.079 the purpose of this um notice of motion 03:31:53.159 --> 03:31:55.159 its action is quite modest and that it 03:31:55.239 --> 03:31:57.280 asks for advice for the CEO about what 03:31:57.360 --> 03:32:01.639 might be possible um and the I very much 03:32:01.719 --> 03:32:03.120 welcome the additional action that we 03:32:03.200 --> 03:32:05.040 write to the the state government to 03:32:05.120 --> 03:32:07.239 Advocate um for considering the sort of 03:32:07.319 --> 03:32:09.280 London model councilors might remember 03:32:09.360 --> 03:32:10.959 we did raise this directly with the 03:32:11.040 --> 03:32:12.200 minister for housing when she came and 03:32:12.280 --> 03:32:14.399 briefed us and the response was that's 03:32:14.479 --> 03:32:15.600 interesting it's the sort of thing we 03:32:15.680 --> 03:32:17.479 should look at but these things take 03:32:17.559 --> 03:32:19.760 time I don't think that respecting 03:32:19.840 --> 03:32:20.879 people when you're bulldozing their 03:32:20.959 --> 03:32:22.440 homes in a project that's due to take 03:32:22.520 --> 03:32:24.959 five years um putting off actually 03:32:25.040 --> 03:32:27.200 working out how to involve people with 03:32:27.280 --> 03:32:28.719 respect at the beginning is not one of 03:32:28.799 --> 03:32:30.239 the things you should delay till after 03:32:30.319 --> 03:32:31.760 you've already bulldozed their community 03:32:31.840 --> 03:32:33.760 so I really welcome that and I thank the 03:32:33.840 --> 03:32:34.920 Lord mayor and her team for the 03:32:35.000 --> 03:32:36.600 opportunity to work on some amendments 03:32:36.680 --> 03:32:38.440 um putting up this 03:32:38.520 --> 03:32:42.000 motion Council chair do you wish to 03:32:42.079 --> 03:32:44.200 Second it and speak yes thank you thank 03:32:44.280 --> 03:32:45.680 you Lord mayor I'd like to thank Council 03:32:45.760 --> 03:32:47.479 elore for this very important motion 03:32:47.559 --> 03:32:51.360 which I support um as has been relayed 03:32:51.440 --> 03:32:53.000 my Amendment aims to strengthen the 03:32:53.079 --> 03:32:54.760 motion by requesting the Lord mayor to 03:32:54.840 --> 03:32:56.600 write to the relevant ministers calling 03:32:56.680 --> 03:32:59.600 on stronger tenants voices in the right 03:32:59.680 --> 03:33:02.440 of return given that social housing 03:33:02.520 --> 03:33:04.200 Redevelopment projects are on state 03:33:04.280 --> 03:33:05.399 government 03:33:05.479 --> 03:33:07.760 land while at the city of Sydney the 03:33:07.840 --> 03:33:09.120 engagement that we do with our 03:33:09.200 --> 03:33:11.000 communities is Central to the Vision 03:33:11.079 --> 03:33:12.840 that has already been set out to 03:33:12.920 --> 03:33:15.680 sustainable Sydney 2030 2050 continuing 03:33:15.760 --> 03:33:18.040 the vision the strategy for the 03:33:18.120 --> 03:33:19.399 achievement of the vision is the 03:33:19.479 --> 03:33:21.520 community engagement strategy and 03:33:21.600 --> 03:33:24.440 participatory plan participation plan 03:33:24.520 --> 03:33:27.319 for 2023 council is well aware of the 03:33:27.399 --> 03:33:28.879 importance of community engagement is 03:33:28.959 --> 03:33:30.559 Central to planning processes at the 03:33:30.639 --> 03:33:33.239 city of cdy the city provides numerous 03:33:33.319 --> 03:33:35.600 avenues for Community consultation this 03:33:35.680 --> 03:33:37.280 includes public exhibition and 03:33:37.360 --> 03:33:39.360 notification of applications and 03:33:39.440 --> 03:33:41.799 proposals members of the public can 03:33:41.879 --> 03:33:44.319 address councilors at our transport 03:33:44.399 --> 03:33:46.479 Heritage and planning committee 03:33:46.559 --> 03:33:48.000 community members can speak at the 03:33:48.079 --> 03:33:49.559 meetings of the central Sydney planning 03:33:49.639 --> 03:33:51.639 committee as well as the local planning 03:33:51.719 --> 03:33:53.840 panel there's a community representative 03:33:53.920 --> 03:33:56.360 on the local planning panel as well if 03:33:56.440 --> 03:33:58.239 the city of Sydney is the planning 03:33:58.319 --> 03:34:00.280 Authority or the consent Authority for a 03:34:00.360 --> 03:34:02.920 DA which are different functions there 03:34:03.000 --> 03:34:04.440 are mandatory requirements that the 03:34:04.520 --> 03:34:06.920 counil must meet in relation to public 03:34:07.000 --> 03:34:08.760 exhibition and the notification 03:34:08.840 --> 03:34:12.040 processes including men time frames and 03:34:12.120 --> 03:34:14.479 to consider submissions at the 03:34:14.559 --> 03:34:17.920 development application da stage it is 03:34:18.000 --> 03:34:20.000 possible for the consent authority to 03:34:20.079 --> 03:34:23.639 include a proponent lie Aon condition 03:34:23.719 --> 03:34:25.719 which requires regular consultation 03:34:25.799 --> 03:34:27.680 between the proponent and the affected 03:34:27.760 --> 03:34:30.680 parties in this case the tenants and or 03:34:30.760 --> 03:34:33.280 the community however the city doesn't 03:34:33.360 --> 03:34:35.639 have legisla powers in relation to 03:34:35.719 --> 03:34:37.879 tenants rights unlike the Preamble 03:34:37.959 --> 03:34:40.079 reference to London Council Burrows in 03:34:40.159 --> 03:34:42.680 London own public housing giving them 03:34:42.760 --> 03:34:44.879 considerable control whereas the city of 03:34:44.959 --> 03:34:46.840 Sydney does not they're largely the 03:34:46.920 --> 03:34:48.399 responsibility of the New South Wales 03:34:48.479 --> 03:34:50.440 government the rights of public housing 03:34:50.520 --> 03:34:52.200 tenants are best Advanced through 03:34:52.280 --> 03:34:54.559 dialogue with the owners and managers of 03:34:54.639 --> 03:34:56.799 public housing being the new southwes 03:34:56.879 --> 03:34:59.239 government that's why my amend amendment 03:34:59.319 --> 03:35:00.760 resolves that the Lord May WR to the 03:35:00.840 --> 03:35:02.399 state government seeking improved 03:35:02.479 --> 03:35:04.920 approaches our community engagement Str 03:35:05.000 --> 03:35:07.319 strategy and Community participation 03:35:07.399 --> 03:35:10.120 plan cannot put obligations on 03:35:10.200 --> 03:35:11.120 proponents 03:35:11.200 --> 03:35:13.040 the city Advocates to the land and 03:35:13.120 --> 03:35:14.600 housing Corporation and the plan 03:35:14.680 --> 03:35:16.319 Department of planning and environment 03:35:16.399 --> 03:35:18.280 in relation to Consulting with the 03:35:18.360 --> 03:35:20.520 state's tenants and The Wider Community 03:35:20.600 --> 03:35:24.920 thank you thank you so we have um got an 03:35:25.000 --> 03:35:27.879 amended a 03:35:30.760 --> 03:35:33.959 varied right so you move the amended 03:35:34.040 --> 03:35:35.799 motion yes that's right Lord mayor I 03:35:35.879 --> 03:35:37.360 moved in alternative motion which 03:35:37.440 --> 03:35:39.520 Incorporated the Amendments okay so I 03:35:39.600 --> 03:35:42.319 put it to you all there say I well 03:35:42.399 --> 03:35:44.719 Council Wen thank you I just wanted to 03:35:44.799 --> 03:35:47.559 make a quick comment Lord mayor um apart 03:35:47.639 --> 03:35:50.239 from advicing my support for this motion 03:35:50.319 --> 03:35:51.799 I also wanted to make sure that there 03:35:51.879 --> 03:35:54.200 was some recognition for the abigal 03:35:54.280 --> 03:35:56.559 housing Alliance uh group there's a 03:35:56.639 --> 03:35:59.360 number of abigal organizations that have 03:35:59.440 --> 03:36:02.079 you know made that change in red waterl 03:36:02.159 --> 03:36:03.479 um and particularly I'd like to give 03:36:03.559 --> 03:36:05.280 mention although it hasn't been captured 03:36:05.360 --> 03:36:08.000 in your Bo M minute or any of the 03:36:08.079 --> 03:36:10.159 reference to the community groups that 03:36:10.239 --> 03:36:12.200 have engaged or should be engaged or 03:36:12.280 --> 03:36:15.959 wrote to from Council is that the likes 03:36:16.040 --> 03:36:18.079 of Warren Roberts and the work that he 03:36:18.159 --> 03:36:19.760 has done by bringing a number of 03:36:19.840 --> 03:36:21.600 Aboriginal organizations that are 03:36:21.680 --> 03:36:25.520 dealing with tenants but also housing um 03:36:25.600 --> 03:36:28.760 and housing need uh they he he also 03:36:28.840 --> 03:36:31.280 needs to be included and also commended 03:36:31.360 --> 03:36:34.159 for the work that he is doing the uh the 03:36:34.239 --> 03:36:36.639 15% minimum abigal housing that took 03:36:36.719 --> 03:36:38.840 place in rern w l is because of that 03:36:38.920 --> 03:36:40.639 concerted effort that Warren has 03:36:40.719 --> 03:36:42.719 undertaken and I think he needs to be 03:36:42.799 --> 03:36:44.200 recognized for that and certainly needs 03:36:44.280 --> 03:36:47.040 to be included by 03:36:47.760 --> 03:36:49.959 Council so I'll put the motion to you 03:36:50.040 --> 03:36:52.440 all those in favor say I those against 03:36:52.520 --> 03:36:54.000 declare it Carrried you thank you very 03:36:54.079 --> 03:36:56.920 much thank you for your 03:36:59.079 --> 03:37:02.079 attendance